[PRCo] The day the Cuyahoga River burned

Sun Sep 13 01:32:19 EDT 2009

I fogot to add that the day I moved to Cleveland was the day that the 
Cuyahoga River burned.  I didn't think much of the occurance since I had 
seen the condition of the Cuyahoga River, and I assumed that it burned at 
regular intervals.

True story.

Bob 9/12/09

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: [PRCo] Re: Summer In The City (City Views and Rail Pics From 
Cleveland)

> Sounds quitie different from the time in the the late 60's when I had an 
> apartment in downtown Cleveland.  At that time, there were absolutely NO 
> theaters in the downtown area and maybe three restaurants that were open 
> at night.  The Flats area west of downtown was just getting started, but I 
> couldn't stand the lack of activity - and feeling of danger on the 
> streets - so I moved to Lakewood in 1969. Lakewood was pleasant and safe, 
> but I liked Pittsburgh even more when I moved back to PA in the early 
> 70's.
>
> However, while I endured Cleveland I rode the CTS Rapid and bus lines 
> every day, and occasionally rode the Shaker Rapid in the PCC era. Always 
> carrying a camera, I took more than a few photos on the CTS and SHRT.
>
> Bob 9/12/09
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:09 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Summer In The City (City Views and Rail Pics From 
> Cleveland)
>
>
>> Those poles are on the Waterfront Line. They were installed in 1995/1996 
>> and
>> were a dull red at that time. Fourteen lakefront Winters later they have
>> weathered into that shade of pink. They do need to be repainted. I would 
>> not
>> look for repainting until the recession/depression eases.
>> The coupler covers have always been around. We have a fairly new Rail
>> District Director who is actually very good and knows how the rail 
>> transit
>> industry should operate. He has ordered all rail cars (light and heavy) 
>> to
>> have their coupler covers in place when the coupler is not being used. 
>> This
>> keeps the many contacts free from dirt, water, and rust. They first 
>> ordered
>> blue covers for the light rail cars and black covers for the heavy rail
>> cars. Now, everything is getting orange (safety-glow orange to be exact)
>> covers so they can be seen better in the yard and at night.
>>
>> Downtown is pretty alive now days. The "Warehouse District" is the club,
>> restaurant, bar (all upscale) area. This area also has scores of condos 
>> and
>> apartment buildings. It is roughly the area North from Superior Ave to 
>> the
>> Waterfront and bounded on the East by West 3rd and on the West by West 
>> 9th.
>> This area is always active day and night, seven days a week. The "Civic
>> Center District" tends to have a 7am to 7pm crowd. This is from Superior
>> north to the Waterfront and West 3rd, east to East 13th. All government
>> operations and buildings are here for city, county, state and federal
>> governments. A lot of nice, old "neo-classic" type buildings in this
>> area. The "Theater District" is very alive all the time. This is the area
>> from Prospect Ave, north to Chester and from East 9th, east to East 17th.
>> There are ten (yes 10) legitimate theaters such as the Palace, Allen, 
>> State,
>> Hanna, 14th Street, Ohio and four smaller ones. None of these are motion
>> picture theaters, all are stage production theaters. This area also has 
>> many
>> restaurants and bars for the before and after crowd. Again, lively day 
>> and
>> night. The "Financial District" is a 9 to 5 area and is north and south 
>> on
>> East 9th from Lakeside to Prospect. A large residential development is 
>> now
>> being built in the area  along and several blocks east of East 12th
>> from Superior, north to Lakeside. Existing apartment buildings are south 
>> of
>> Superior on East 12th all the way to Euclid Avenue. The "Quadrangle" is 
>> the
>> Cleveland State University area from East 17th, east to East 30th and 
>> north
>> and south from Payne Ave to Prospect. Lively day and night. The 
>> bars/clubs
>> are the young crowd. Of course Public Square, Euclid Avenue, Prospect 
>> Avenue
>> and the area up to East 9th have lots of restaurants, bars, clubs and is
>> lively on weekend nights, especially East 4th St. Also over twenty large
>> residential building along Euclid and Prospect Many "high end" 
>> restaurants
>> are in the Tower City complex and all of the downtown motion picture
>> theaters are in Tower City Center. And don't forget the many, many 
>> trolley
>> and interurban cars parked in the unused tunnels in the Terminal Tower
>> subway.
>>
>> So the point to all this is, come back and see what has happened and what 
>> is
>> happening.
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 11:49 AM, richard allman 
>> <allmanr at verizon.net>wrote:
>>
>>> thanks, Herb!
>>> what's w/ the pink line poles in first photo?! What's w/ the condom on 
>>> the
>>> coupler? safe sex for light rail cars?! the new paint scheme on the 
>>> LRV's
>>> looks quite nice, eh? My impression of Cleveland as city when I visited 
>>> a
>>> number of years ago: downtown is rather appealing  and attractive
>>> architecturally, but at night semi-creepy because taking a walk, 
>>> literally
>>> no one on the streets! RICH
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:34 PM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Summer In The City (City Views and Rail Pics From
>>> Cleveland)
>>>
>>>
>>> > The pics are captioned. The security monitor is an intersting thing.
>>> There
>>> > are eight cameras in each LRV. The monitor is above and to the left of
>>> the
>>> > operators position. Using the monitor "touch screen" I can bring up
>>> > different combinations of real time views of the interior and door 
>>> > areas
>>> > of
>>> > the car. Ah, modern technology !
>>> > If you do not wish to see pics of Cleveland, then use your delete key.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Herb Brannon
>>> > On America's North Coast
>>> >
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>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Herb Brannon
>> On America's North Coast
>>
>>
>>
> 