[PRCo] Re: The day the Cuyahoga River burned

[Herb Brannon]

I also forgot to add the "Gateway District" bounded by Prospect, East 14th,
Interbelt Freeway and Ontario. This contains Progressive Field (aka Pro
Field), home of the Indians and Quicken Arena (aka "The Q"), home of the
Cavaliers. And don't forget Browns Stadium on the Waterfront.
The burning of the river is old, old news. Hasn't happened since and never
will again. The Cuyahoga River is now very clean, along with Lake Erie.
Fish (that can be eaten) are abundant in both the river and the lake. With
the US National Park Service watching over the river, I am confident it will
always remain clean. Fires happened several times on the river throughout
the late 19th and the 20th centuries.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:32 AM, Bob Rathke <bobrathke at comcast.net> wrote:

> I fogot to add that the day I moved to Cleveland was the day that the
> Cuyahoga River burned.  I didn't think much of the occurance since I had
> seen the condition of the Cuyahoga River, and I assumed that it burned at
> regular intervals.
>
> True story.
>
> Bob 9/12/09
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at comcast.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Re: Summer In The City (City Views and Rail Pics From
> Cleveland)
>
>
> > Sounds quitie different from the time in the the late 60's when I had an
> > apartment in downtown Cleveland.  At that time, there were absolutely NO
> > theaters in the downtown area and maybe three restaurants that were open
> > at night.  The Flats area west of downtown was just getting started, but
> I
> > couldn't stand the lack of activity - and feeling of danger on the
> > streets - so I moved to Lakewood in 1969. Lakewood was pleasant and safe,
> > but I liked Pittsburgh even more when I moved back to PA in the early
> > 70's.
> >
> > However, while I endured Cleveland I rode the CTS Rapid and bus lines
> > every day, and occasionally rode the Shaker Rapid in the PCC era. Always
> > carrying a camera, I took more than a few photos on the CTS and SHRT.
> >
> > Bob 9/12/09
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
> > To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 11:09 PM
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: Summer In The City (City Views and Rail Pics From
> > Cleveland)
> >
> >
> >> Those poles are on the Waterfront Line. They were installed in 1995/1996
> >> and
> >> were a dull red at that time. Fourteen lakefront Winters later they have
> >> weathered into that shade of pink. They do need to be repainted. I would
> >> not
> >> look for repainting until the recession/depression eases.
> >> The coupler covers have always been around. We have a fairly new Rail
> >> District Director who is actually very good and knows how the rail
> >> transit
> >> industry should operate. He has ordered all rail cars (light and heavy)
> >> to
> >> have their coupler covers in place when the coupler is not being used.
> >> This
> >> keeps the many contacts free from dirt, water, and rust. They first
> >> ordered
> >> blue covers for the light rail cars and black covers for the heavy rail
> >> cars. Now, everything is getting orange (safety-glow orange to be exact)
> >> covers so they can be seen better in the yard and at night.
> >>
> >> Downtown is pretty alive now days. The "Warehouse District" is the club,
> >> restaurant, bar (all upscale) area. This area also has scores of condos
> >> and
> >> apartment buildings. It is roughly the area North from Superior Ave to
> >> the
> >> Waterfront and bounded on the East by West 3rd and on the West by West
> >> 9th.
> >> This area is always active day and night, seven days a week. The "Civic
> >> Center District" tends to have a 7am to 7pm crowd. This is from Superior
> >> north to the Waterfront and West 3rd, east to East 13th. All government
> >> operations and buildings are here for city, county, state and federal
> >> governments. A lot of nice, old "neo-classic" type buildings in this
> >> area. The "Theater District" is very alive all the time. This is the
> area
> >> from Prospect Ave, north to Chester and from East 9th, east to East
> 17th.
> >> There are ten (yes 10) legitimate theaters such as the Palace, Allen,
> >> State,
> >> Hanna, 14th Street, Ohio and four smaller ones. None of these are motion
> >> picture theaters, all are stage production theaters. This area also has
> >> many
> >> restaurants and bars for the before and after crowd. Again, lively day
> >> and
> >> night. The "Financial District" is a 9 to 5 area and is north and south
> >> on
> >> East 9th from Lakeside to Prospect. A large residential development is
> >> now
> >> being built in the area  along and several blocks east of East 12th
> >> from Superior, north to Lakeside. Existing apartment buildings are south
> >> of
> >> Superior on East 12th all the way to Euclid Avenue. The "Quadrangle" is
> >> the
> >> Cleveland State University area from East 17th, east to East 30th and
> >> north
> >> and south from Payne Ave to Prospect. Lively day and night. The
> >> bars/clubs
> >> are the young crowd. Of course Public Square, Euclid Avenue, Prospect
> >> Avenue
> >> and the area up to East 9th have lots of restaurants, bars, clubs and is
> >> lively on weekend nights, especially East 4th St. Also over twenty large
> >> residential building along Euclid and Prospect Many "high end"
> >> restaurants
> >> are in the Tower City complex and all of the downtown motion picture
> >> theaters are in Tower City Center. And don't forget the many, many
> >> trolley
> >> and interurban cars parked in the unused tunnels in the Terminal Tower
> >> subway.
> >>
> >> So the point to all this is, come back and see what has happened and
> what
> >> is
> >> happening.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 11:49 AM, richard allman
> >> <allmanr at verizon.net>wrote:
> >>
> >>> thanks, Herb!
> >>> what's w/ the pink line poles in first photo?! What's w/ the condom on
> >>> the
> >>> coupler? safe sex for light rail cars?! the new paint scheme on the
> >>> LRV's
> >>> looks quite nice, eh? My impression of Cleveland as city when I visited
> >>> a
> >>> number of years ago: downtown is rather appealing  and attractive
> >>> architecturally, but at night semi-creepy because taking a walk,
> >>> literally
> >>> no one on the streets! RICH
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
> >>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:34 PM
> >>> Subject: [PRCo] Summer In The City (City Views and Rail Pics From
> >>> Cleveland)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > The pics are captioned. The security monitor is an intersting thing.
> >>> There
> >>> > are eight cameras in each LRV. The monitor is above and to the left
> of
> >>> the
> >>> > operators position. Using the monitor "touch screen" I can bring up
> >>> > different combinations of real time views of the interior and door
> >>> > areas
> >>> > of
> >>> > the car. Ah, modern technology !
> >>> > If you do not wish to see pics of Cleveland, then use your delete
> key.
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Herb Brannon
> >>> > On America's North Coast
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> >> --
> >> Herb Brannon
> >> On America's North Coast
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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-- 
Herb Brannon
On America's North Coast