[PRCo] Re: LIST CONVENTION

[Edward H. Lybarger]

I am guilty of an oversight on the 2010 dates for consideration...they have
to include the Thursday if special museum operations are to be included.
Fridays are not possible for this activity since it is a public operations
day.  So the correct dates would be November 4-5-6 and 11-12-13.  Sundays
would be yours, unscheduled.

If we are to have a day at PTM, it needs to fall between Harvest Trolley at
the end of October and Santa Trolley at Thanksgiving, and the week before
Thanksgiving is not good for this type of activity.  That leaves the first
two weeks of November.

Sorry,
Ed 

-----Original Message-----
From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Edward
H. Lybarger
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:42 PM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: LIST CONVENTION

Afraid I'm not available that weekend...we have family obligations to attend
to.

Don't mean to contradict, but I certainly did suggest field trips to Herb
(and everyone else) on September 17 -- that was yesterday, if I recall
correctly.  And yes, I stated flatly to some folks that there would be no
meeting this year like we did last time.  It takes time to prepare these
things, AND availability on the chosen date!  From what I'm hearing, Herb
seems to be the only one who doesn't like the field trips, which would
explain why he didn't come on them last time.  And apparently he's the only
one who doesn't feel that PTM should be involved. Am I misunderstanding
something here?

If the group is interested in a get-together like we had before, NOW is the
time to put it on next fall's calendar.  I would offer November 5-6-7 or
12-13-14 for starters, and would offer to coordinate it again.  But if the
preference of the group is simply to get together to talk and play with
trolleys and do pure railfan things, it would be better if someone else
organized it.  It's that simple.  Please bring slides, too.

I didn't read Fred's comment as having anything to do with intelligence.  It
had to do with isolation, a condition that is hardly unique to parts of West
Virginia.  I find it in my travels in other states, as well.  I sometimes
find it at my local Eat 'n Park, too!

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Herb
Brannon
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:13 AM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: LIST CONVENTION

Then lets change it to the last full weekend (24/25) in October. How's that?
Ed did not suggest anything to me. He apparently told several others flatly
that there would be no getting together this year. As I said, this is a
meeting of individuals, not bus trips to look at flat spots on the ground.

Also, my parents and grandparents were from West Virginia. Are you saying
the people of West Virginia are not as "intelligent" as you? But then you
always do relate wisdom and knowledge with occupation. How insulting of you.

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Schneider Fred
<fwschneider at comcast.net>wrote:

> HERB ET AL:
>
> REMEMBER THAT ED HAD TWO POINTS ....
>
> FIRST WAS THAT HE THOUGHT EDUCATION SHOULD BE PART OF THE TOUR.  I 
> WOULD AGREE.
>
> SECOND WAS THAT HE COULD NOT ATTEND IN NOVEMBER BECAUSE HE WAS GOING
> TO BE OUT OF TOWN.   REMEMBER ALSO THAT NOVEMBER INCLUDES
> THANKSGIVING.   THE MUSEUM HAS SANTA EVERY WEEKEND STARTING THE DAY
> AFTER THANKSGIVING AND CONCLUDING BEFORE CHRISTMAS.   MANY OF US HAVE
> FAMILY PLANS FOR THANKSGIVING ... I ALWAYS WORK AT THE MUSEUM THAT 
> WEEKEND AND I KNOW MY WIFE AND I WILL BE DINING WITH ED AND HIS
> WIFE.   THEN THERE ARE ALL THE CHRISTMAS PLANS.   AT BEST PEOPLE ARE
> GOING TO HAVE A ONE OR TWO WEEK WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY AT THE BEGINNING 
> OF NOVEMBER AND MANY OF US WOULD RATHER NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT 
> COMPLICATING THE HOLIDAY SEASON WORSE THAN IT ALREADY IS ... ME FOR 
> ONE.
>
> WOULD IT NOT BE WISE TO PUT THIS OFF UNTIL AFTER THE HOLIDAY
> SEASON?   ADMITTEDLY WE CANNOT PREDICT SNOW.   DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT
> WILL HAPPEN.   IT MAY ALSO MEAN YOU CANNOT RUN A CAR IF YOU HAVE SNOW
> BECAUSE ALL THE SWITCHES MAY BE FROZEN AND NOT WORTH DIGGING OUT.
> BUT WE HOPE THAT WE DON'T HAVE SNOW.
>
> YOU SUGGESTED A SHOP TOUR ... THAT IS ONLY GOOD FOR AN HOUR.
>
> DINNERS ARE ONLY GOOD FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.
>
> RIDING THE LIGHT RAIL MIGHT EAT UP HALF A DAY BUT NOT A WHOLE LOT.
>
> ED SUGGESTED SOME POSSIBLE BUS TOURS TO YOU ... HARMONY,
> STEUBENVILLE, MORE OF WEST PENN, WHEELING.   HE AND I ALSO DISCUSSED
> ONE THAT COULD START REALLY EARLY IN THE A.M. AND END VERY LATE IN THE 
> DAY ... MONONGAHELA - WEST PENN PUBLIC SERVICE (CITY LINES OF
> WEST VIRGINIA) FROM FAIRMOUNT TO CLARKSBURG AND WESTON.   THAT'S
> REALLY OUT OF THE WAY COUNTRY ... I REMEMBER GIVING A WAITRESS A $2 
> BILL AS A TIP IN SHINNSTON, WV ONE DAY AND SHE HAD NEVER SEEN ONE 
> BEFORE ... SHE TOOK IT ALL AROUND THE RESTAURANT SHOWING THOMAS
> JEFFERSON'S PORTRAIT TO ALL THE LOCAL CUSTOMERS.   THAT'S REALLY OUT
> IN THE STICKS COUNTRY.
>
> IF YOU WANT A GUIDED TOUR ... REMEMBER THAT IT IS ED THAT HAS MADE UP 
> ALL THE TOURS TO SHOW A CERTAIN MUSEUM DONOR WHERE THE TROLLEYS ONCE
> RAN.   YOU NEED TO HAVE YOUR CONVENTION WHEN HE IS THERE IF YOU WANT
> TO DO THAT.
>
> OF COURSE, IF YOU ONLY WANT TO SEE PITTSBURGH RAILWAYS ROUTES, THEN 
> YOU CAN EASILY GET A PERC / PTM MAP AND DO THAT IN YOUR OWN AUTOMOBILE.
>
> NO, I'M NOT SHOUTING ... I'M JUST IN UPPER CASE MODE.
>
> FRED SCHNEIDER
>
>


--
Herb Brannon
On America's North Coast