[PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh 4322 from Gaterman file 409

[John Swindler]

Change to Washington Road



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> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Pittsburgh 4322 from Gaterman file 409
> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:26:27 -0400
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> For starters, not 42/38.  42/38 was created when route 38 abandoned as separate route circa 1961, long after 4322 was scrapped.
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> And not running on route 42 which terminated at Dormont Wye.  This is the 38A layover at Clearview loop.  This view is looking west towards Washington Blvd.
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> And Alfred St. is to right of this picture.  Not visible at this angle.  Pavement to right would have been used by the three Mt. Lebanon shuttle bus lines - Inglewood, Jefferson and Sunset Hills.  They came down an alley to left of photographer
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> And what is the motorman doing???  Probably pulling the pole down for his next trip to Castle Shannon.
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> Perhaps not such a rare use after all.
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> Cheers
> John
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> > From: fwschneider at comcast.net
> > Subject: [PRCo] Pittsburgh 4322 from Gaterman file 409
> > Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 20:29:16 -0400
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> > The photograph forwarded with this e-mail was on Skip Gaterman's daily postcards.   It's unusual because route 42 called for double-end cars.   Anyone want to venture an opinion why a low 4300 would be running on Dormont?    The only suggestion I might have is that there might have been 42/38 trips that terminated in Castle Shannon and then became shuttles. 
> > Or might it be a trip from South Hills Car House to Mount Lebanon to put the car in service?     
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> > The location, by the way, is Washington Road at Alfred Street (Clearview Loop).   It is the entrance to the loop from Washington Road.   The building over the center door is on the northwest side of Washington Road.   This I have confirmed from Bing Maps.   All of these buildings exist today (or at the time the aerial photographs were made).   
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> > Skip claims there was no identification on the photo other than it is a rare use of this type car.   No kidding!!!!
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