[PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs

[Bill Robb]

4684 is a rusting hulk.  It'll never run again.
Bill Robb


Former Cleveland Transit 4259 which became Toronto Transit Commission 4684
currently resides at Halton County Radial Railway Museum near Guelph,
Ontario. Some of the A-12 series may be rusting on a hillside in
North-Central Ohio along with some other PCCs.





.On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:03, richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net> wrote:

> what they were for almost their entire lives were the Toronto A-12 series!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>   Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 11:28 AM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs
>
>
> > While a few of these cars made it to Louisville, they never ran in that
> > city. No PCC ever ran in Louisville in revenue service. The majority of
> > the
> > 25 cars were shipped  directly from St Louis Car Company to Cleveland
> > Transit System, Cleveland, Ohio. They are ex-Cleveland cars, not
> > ex-Louisville.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 00:35, Phillip Clark Campbell
> > <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Mr.Allman;
> >>
> >> Beautiful models;  excellent overhead as well!
> >> Could you please share some more model photos?
> >>
> >> Mr.Robb----All Electric PCCs had slight angle of rear window
> >> above the belt line;  below the belt line was vertical,  at least
> >> on St.Louis Cars.  Air Cars had the same slope from above the
> >> windows to the floor, 8-degrees/30-min on Pgh cars.  I'll send
> >> you a scan of the Prc 17s rear elevation off list.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Phil
> >> Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
> >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >> Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 11:35:17 PM
> >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
> >>
> >> Bill-Hmm-post-war MU: Boston, Toronto, Shaker,
> >> unless you also count Red Arow and Illinois Terminal.
> >> Attached is photo of a set of Toronto ex-Cleveland
> >> St. Louis -built MU PCC's-series A-12 @
> >> TTC-since you brought it up!
> >>  I built these around 6 years ago in HO scale.RICH
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bill Robb" <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
> >> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 11:29 AM
> >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
> >>
> >> > I also thought the pre-war cars were more graceful,
> >> > but during the last years of the PCCs I came to appreciate
> >> > the post-war front end was almost as graceful when
> >> > walking by stopped TTC 4300s at Yonge and Queen.
> >> > Unfortunately the post war back end drops straight down
> >> > from the roof line. The tapered pre-war rear end is my
> >> > favorite. I remember MU cars as having a less graceful profile
> >> > than the non-MU variety because the couplers cut the lines
> >> > off abruptly.
> >> > Bill
> >>
> >> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/DSC_0324-1.JPG
> >>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Herb Brannon
> > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
> >
> >
> >
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Herb Brannon
In Cuyahoga Valley National Park