[PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs

[Herb Brannon]

Too bad. With the exception of one in the GCRTA rail collection I don't know
if any other Cleveland PCCs are preserved.
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:35, Bill Robb <bill937ca at yahoo.ca> wrote:

> 4684 is a rusting hulk.  It'll never run again.
> Bill Robb
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> Former Cleveland Transit 4259 which became Toronto Transit Commission 4684
> currently resides at Halton County Radial Railway Museum near Guelph,
> Ontario. Some of the A-12 series may be rusting on a hillside in
> North-Central Ohio along with some other PCCs.
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> .On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:03, richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
> wrote:
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> > what they were for almost their entire lives were the Toronto A-12
> series!
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> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
> > To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >   Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 11:28 AM
> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs
> >
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> > > While a few of these cars made it to Louisville, they never ran in that
> > > city. No PCC ever ran in Louisville in revenue service. The majority of
> > > the
> > > 25 cars were shipped  directly from St Louis Car Company to Cleveland
> > > Transit System, Cleveland, Ohio. They are ex-Cleveland cars, not
> > > ex-Louisville.
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> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 00:35, Phillip Clark Campbell
> > > <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>wrote:
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> > >> Mr.Allman;
> > >>
> > >> Beautiful models;  excellent overhead as well!
> > >> Could you please share some more model photos?
> > >>
> > >> Mr.Robb----All Electric PCCs had slight angle of rear window
> > >> above the belt line;  below the belt line was vertical,  at least
> > >> on St.Louis Cars.  Air Cars had the same slope from above the
> > >> windows to the floor, 8-degrees/30-min on Pgh cars.  I'll send
> > >> you a scan of the Prc 17s rear elevation off list.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Phil
> > >> Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'
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> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From: richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
> > >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> > >> Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 11:35:17 PM
> > >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
> > >>
> > >> Bill-Hmm-post-war MU: Boston, Toronto, Shaker,
> > >> unless you also count Red Arow and Illinois Terminal.
> > >> Attached is photo of a set of Toronto ex-Cleveland
> > >> St. Louis -built MU PCC's-series A-12 @
> > >> TTC-since you brought it up!
> > >>  I built these around 6 years ago in HO scale.RICH
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Bill Robb" <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
> > >> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> > >> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 11:29 AM
> > >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
> > >>
> > >> > I also thought the pre-war cars were more graceful,
> > >> > but during the last years of the PCCs I came to appreciate
> > >> > the post-war front end was almost as graceful when
> > >> > walking by stopped TTC 4300s at Yonge and Queen.
> > >> > Unfortunately the post war back end drops straight down
> > >> > from the roof line. The tapered pre-war rear end is my
> > >> > favorite. I remember MU cars as having a less graceful profile
> > >> > than the non-MU variety because the couplers cut the lines
> > >> > off abruptly.
> > >> > Bill
> > >>
> > >> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/DSC_0324-1.JPG
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> > > --
> > > Herb Brannon
> > > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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> Herb Brannon
> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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Herb Brannon
In Cuyahoga Valley National Park