[PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs

[Derrick Brashear]

On Nov 21, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:

> Too bad. With the exception of one in the GCRTA rail collection I don't know
> if any other Cleveland PCCs are preserved.
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:35, Bill Robb <bill937ca at yahoo.ca> wrote:
> 
>> 4684 is a rusting hulk.  It'll never run again.
>> Bill Robb
>> 
>> 
>> Former Cleveland Transit 4259 which became Toronto Transit Commission 4684
>> currently resides at Halton County Radial Railway Museum near Guelph,
>> Ontario. Some of the A-12 series may be rusting on a hillside in
>> North-Central Ohio along with some other PCCs.
>> 

Would this be the ones just off 70? I was in Hebron last weekend to launch a weather balloon but ran out of time to visit these, alas.

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>> .On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:03, richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
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>>> what they were for almost their entire lives were the Toronto A-12
>> series!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>  Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 11:28 AM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> While a few of these cars made it to Louisville, they never ran in that
>>>> city. No PCC ever ran in Louisville in revenue service. The majority of
>>>> the
>>>> 25 cars were shipped  directly from St Louis Car Company to Cleveland
>>>> Transit System, Cleveland, Ohio. They are ex-Cleveland cars, not
>>>> ex-Louisville.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 00:35, Phillip Clark Campbell
>>>> <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Mr.Allman;
>>>>> 
>>>>> Beautiful models;  excellent overhead as well!
>>>>> Could you please share some more model photos?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mr.Robb----All Electric PCCs had slight angle of rear window
>>>>> above the belt line;  below the belt line was vertical,  at least
>>>>> on St.Louis Cars.  Air Cars had the same slope from above the
>>>>> windows to the floor, 8-degrees/30-min on Pgh cars.  I'll send
>>>>> you a scan of the Prc 17s rear elevation off list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Phil
>>>>> Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
>>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>>> Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 11:35:17 PM
>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bill-Hmm-post-war MU: Boston, Toronto, Shaker,
>>>>> unless you also count Red Arow and Illinois Terminal.
>>>>> Attached is photo of a set of Toronto ex-Cleveland
>>>>> St. Louis -built MU PCC's-series A-12 @
>>>>> TTC-since you brought it up!
>>>>> I built these around 6 years ago in HO scale.RICH
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Bill Robb" <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
>>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 11:29 AM
>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I also thought the pre-war cars were more graceful,
>>>>>> but during the last years of the PCCs I came to appreciate
>>>>>> the post-war front end was almost as graceful when
>>>>>> walking by stopped TTC 4300s at Yonge and Queen.
>>>>>> Unfortunately the post war back end drops straight down
>>>>>> from the roof line. The tapered pre-war rear end is my
>>>>>> favorite. I remember MU cars as having a less graceful profile
>>>>>> than the non-MU variety because the couplers cut the lines
>>>>>> off abruptly.
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/DSC_0324-1.JPG
>>>>> 
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>>>> Herb Brannon
>>>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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>> Herb Brannon
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