[PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs

[Herb Brannon]

I thought this location was further North. Maybe off old US 30 ?
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 14:08, Derrick Brashear <shadow at dementia.org> wrote:

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> On Nov 21, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
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> > Too bad. With the exception of one in the GCRTA rail collection I don't
> know
> > if any other Cleveland PCCs are preserved.
> > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:35, Bill Robb <bill937ca at yahoo.ca> wrote:
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> >> 4684 is a rusting hulk.  It'll never run again.
> >> Bill Robb
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> >>
> >> Former Cleveland Transit 4259 which became Toronto Transit Commission
> 4684
> >> currently resides at Halton County Radial Railway Museum near Guelph,
> >> Ontario. Some of the A-12 series may be rusting on a hillside in
> >> North-Central Ohio along with some other PCCs.
> >>
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> Would this be the ones just off 70? I was in Hebron last weekend to launch
> a weather balloon but ran out of time to visit these, alas.
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> >> .On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:03, richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
> >> wrote:
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> >>> what they were for almost their entire lives were the Toronto A-12
> >> series!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
> >>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >>>  Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 11:28 AM
> >>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> While a few of these cars made it to Louisville, they never ran in
> that
> >>>> city. No PCC ever ran in Louisville in revenue service. The majority
> of
> >>>> the
> >>>> 25 cars were shipped  directly from St Louis Car Company to Cleveland
> >>>> Transit System, Cleveland, Ohio. They are ex-Cleveland cars, not
> >>>> ex-Louisville.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 00:35, Phillip Clark Campbell
> >>>> <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Mr.Allman;
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Beautiful models;  excellent overhead as well!
> >>>>> Could you please share some more model photos?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mr.Robb----All Electric PCCs had slight angle of rear window
> >>>>> above the belt line;  below the belt line was vertical,  at least
> >>>>> on St.Louis Cars.  Air Cars had the same slope from above the
> >>>>> windows to the floor, 8-degrees/30-min on Pgh cars.  I'll send
> >>>>> you a scan of the Prc 17s rear elevation off list.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Phil
> >>>>> Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>> From: richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
> >>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >>>>> Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 11:35:17 PM
> >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bill-Hmm-post-war MU: Boston, Toronto, Shaker,
> >>>>> unless you also count Red Arow and Illinois Terminal.
> >>>>> Attached is photo of a set of Toronto ex-Cleveland
> >>>>> St. Louis -built MU PCC's-series A-12 @
> >>>>> TTC-since you brought it up!
> >>>>> I built these around 6 years ago in HO scale.RICH
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Bill Robb" <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
> >>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 11:29 AM
> >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I also thought the pre-war cars were more graceful,
> >>>>>> but during the last years of the PCCs I came to appreciate
> >>>>>> the post-war front end was almost as graceful when
> >>>>>> walking by stopped TTC 4300s at Yonge and Queen.
> >>>>>> Unfortunately the post war back end drops straight down
> >>>>>> from the roof line. The tapered pre-war rear end is my
> >>>>>> favorite. I remember MU cars as having a less graceful profile
> >>>>>> than the non-MU variety because the couplers cut the lines
> >>>>>> off abruptly.
> >>>>>> Bill
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/DSC_0324-1.JPG
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> >>>> --
> >>>> Herb Brannon
> >>>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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> >> Herb Brannon
> >> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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> > Herb Brannon
> > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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Herb Brannon
In Cuyahoga Valley National Park