[PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs

[Derrick Brashear]

I'm thinking of the Jedlicka collection, milepost 130 on 70

Derrick


On Nov 21, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:

> I thought this location was further North. Maybe off old US 30 ?
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 14:08, Derrick Brashear <shadow at dementia.org> wrote:
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>> On Nov 21, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
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>>> Too bad. With the exception of one in the GCRTA rail collection I don't
>> know
>>> if any other Cleveland PCCs are preserved.
>>> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:35, Bill Robb <bill937ca at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 4684 is a rusting hulk.  It'll never run again.
>>>> Bill Robb
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Former Cleveland Transit 4259 which became Toronto Transit Commission
>> 4684
>>>> currently resides at Halton County Radial Railway Museum near Guelph,
>>>> Ontario. Some of the A-12 series may be rusting on a hillside in
>>>> North-Central Ohio along with some other PCCs.
>>>> 
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>> Would this be the ones just off 70? I was in Hebron last weekend to launch
>> a weather balloon but ran out of time to visit these, alas.
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>>>> .On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:03, richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> what they were for almost their entire lives were the Toronto A-12
>>>> series!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
>>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 11:28 AM
>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> While a few of these cars made it to Louisville, they never ran in
>> that
>>>>>> city. No PCC ever ran in Louisville in revenue service. The majority
>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> 25 cars were shipped  directly from St Louis Car Company to Cleveland
>>>>>> Transit System, Cleveland, Ohio. They are ex-Cleveland cars, not
>>>>>> ex-Louisville.
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 00:35, Phillip Clark Campbell
>>>>>> <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mr.Allman;
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Beautiful models;  excellent overhead as well!
>>>>>>> Could you please share some more model photos?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mr.Robb----All Electric PCCs had slight angle of rear window
>>>>>>> above the belt line;  below the belt line was vertical,  at least
>>>>>>> on St.Louis Cars.  Air Cars had the same slope from above the
>>>>>>> windows to the floor, 8-degrees/30-min on Pgh cars.  I'll send
>>>>>>> you a scan of the Prc 17s rear elevation off list.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Phil
>>>>>>> Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
>>>>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 11:35:17 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bill-Hmm-post-war MU: Boston, Toronto, Shaker,
>>>>>>> unless you also count Red Arow and Illinois Terminal.
>>>>>>> Attached is photo of a set of Toronto ex-Cleveland
>>>>>>> St. Louis -built MU PCC's-series A-12 @
>>>>>>> TTC-since you brought it up!
>>>>>>> I built these around 6 years ago in HO scale.RICH
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Bill Robb" <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
>>>>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 11:29 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I also thought the pre-war cars were more graceful,
>>>>>>>> but during the last years of the PCCs I came to appreciate
>>>>>>>> the post-war front end was almost as graceful when
>>>>>>>> walking by stopped TTC 4300s at Yonge and Queen.
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately the post war back end drops straight down
>>>>>>>> from the roof line. The tapered pre-war rear end is my
>>>>>>>> favorite. I remember MU cars as having a less graceful profile
>>>>>>>> than the non-MU variety because the couplers cut the lines
>>>>>>>> off abruptly.
>>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/DSC_0324-1.JPG
>>>>>>> 
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