[PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs

[Herb Brannon]

Yes, that's it. I know we had a discussion on The List several years ago
concerning the Ron Jedlicka collection of non operating cars. I forgot
exactly where they were located. The PATransit 4000series PCC, which he
owns, is still sitting in the East end of the parking lot at the Cuyahoga
County Engineers Office. This office is at the West end of the
Detroit-Superior Bridge. When the car first arrived there around 2006 it
looked halfway decent. Now it looks like a refugee from a scrap yard after
sitting through several Winters near the shore of Lake Erie. Cuyahoga County
government was not going to keep it up, even though it's on their land and
Ron Jedlicka doesn't seem to want to keep any of his cars maintained.
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 14:30, Derrick Brashear <shadow at dementia.org> wrote:

> I'm thinking of the Jedlicka collection, milepost 130 on 70
>
> Derrick
>
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> On Nov 21, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
>
> > I thought this location was further North. Maybe off old US 30 ?
> > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 14:08, Derrick Brashear <shadow at dementia.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 21, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Too bad. With the exception of one in the GCRTA rail collection I don't
> >> know
> >>> if any other Cleveland PCCs are preserved.
> >>> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:35, Bill Robb <bill937ca at yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> 4684 is a rusting hulk.  It'll never run again.
> >>>> Bill Robb
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Former Cleveland Transit 4259 which became Toronto Transit Commission
> >> 4684
> >>>> currently resides at Halton County Radial Railway Museum near Guelph,
> >>>> Ontario. Some of the A-12 series may be rusting on a hillside in
> >>>> North-Central Ohio along with some other PCCs.
> >>>>
> >>
> >> Would this be the ones just off 70? I was in Hebron last weekend to
> launch
> >> a weather balloon but ran out of time to visit these, alas.
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> .On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:03, richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> what they were for almost their entire lives were the Toronto A-12
> >>>> series!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
> >>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 11:28 AM
> >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> While a few of these cars made it to Louisville, they never ran in
> >> that
> >>>>>> city. No PCC ever ran in Louisville in revenue service. The majority
> >> of
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> 25 cars were shipped  directly from St Louis Car Company to
> Cleveland
> >>>>>> Transit System, Cleveland, Ohio. They are ex-Cleveland cars, not
> >>>>>> ex-Louisville.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 00:35, Phillip Clark Campbell
> >>>>>> <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Mr.Allman;
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Beautiful models;  excellent overhead as well!
> >>>>>>> Could you please share some more model photos?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Mr.Robb----All Electric PCCs had slight angle of rear window
> >>>>>>> above the belt line;  below the belt line was vertical,  at least
> >>>>>>> on St.Louis Cars.  Air Cars had the same slope from above the
> >>>>>>> windows to the floor, 8-degrees/30-min on Pgh cars.  I'll send
> >>>>>>> you a scan of the Prc 17s rear elevation off list.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Phil
> >>>>>>> Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>> From: richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
> >>>>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >>>>>>> Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 11:35:17 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Bill-Hmm-post-war MU: Boston, Toronto, Shaker,
> >>>>>>> unless you also count Red Arow and Illinois Terminal.
> >>>>>>> Attached is photo of a set of Toronto ex-Cleveland
> >>>>>>> St. Louis -built MU PCC's-series A-12 @
> >>>>>>> TTC-since you brought it up!
> >>>>>>> I built these around 6 years ago in HO scale.RICH
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> From: "Bill Robb" <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
> >>>>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 11:29 AM
> >>>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I also thought the pre-war cars were more graceful,
> >>>>>>>> but during the last years of the PCCs I came to appreciate
> >>>>>>>> the post-war front end was almost as graceful when
> >>>>>>>> walking by stopped TTC 4300s at Yonge and Queen.
> >>>>>>>> Unfortunately the post war back end drops straight down
> >>>>>>>> from the roof line. The tapered pre-war rear end is my
> >>>>>>>> favorite. I remember MU cars as having a less graceful profile
> >>>>>>>> than the non-MU variety because the couplers cut the lines
> >>>>>>>> off abruptly.
> >>>>>>>> Bill
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/DSC_0324-1.JPG
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Herb Brannon
> >>>>>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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> >>>> --
> >>>> Herb Brannon
> >>>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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> >>> Herb Brannon
> >>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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> > Herb Brannon
> > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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Herb Brannon
In Cuyahoga Valley National Park