[PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs

[Dwight Long]

Herb
Are you referring to Denver or Louisville re the 1940 test?  I'm unaware of any such in Denver--perhaps there was in Louisville.

I agree that PCCs never operated in Louisville in revenue service.  That's what I was trying to say in my email.

Dwight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Herb Brannon 
  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, 21 November, 2010 12:27
  Subject: [PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs


  There was a "trial" service around 1940 offered by a PCC demonstrator.
  However, like PRCo 1095 in Cleveland, was not what, by the transit industry,
  is defined as "revenue service".
  On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:20, Dwight Long <dwightlong at verizon.net> wrote:

  > Herb
  >
  > Your second sentence is correct, but your first is only so if modified by
  > the second.  At least PCCs got to Louisville and ran (for a nanosecond or
  > so), unlike Denver, where the Denver Tramway Co. turned down the offer by
  > St. Louis Car Co and LATL to borrow an LATL PCC in transit to that city.
  >  The local newspaper even offered to pay the expenses of transshipment.  DTC
  > turned them down flat.  Talk about having one's mind made up.  DTC and LATL
  > were both the rare (in USA) Cape gauge, so it would have worked.
  >
  > Dwight
  >
  >  ----- Original Message -----
  >  From: Herb Brannon
  >  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  >  Sent: Sunday, 21 November, 2010 11:28
  >  Subject: [PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs
  >
  >
  >   While a few of these cars made it to Louisville, they never ran in that
  >  city. No PCC ever ran in Louisville in revenue service. The majority of
  > the
  >  25 cars were shipped  directly from St Louis Car Company to Cleveland
  >  Transit System, Cleveland, Ohio. They are ex-Cleveland cars, not
  >  ex-Louisville.
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  >  On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 00:35, Phillip Clark Campbell <pcc_sr at yahoo.com
  > >wrote:
  >
  >  > Mr.Allman;
  >  >
  >  > Beautiful models;  excellent overhead as well!
  >  > Could you please share some more model photos?
  >  >
  >  > Mr.Robb----All Electric PCCs had slight angle of rear window
  >  > above the belt line;  below the belt line was vertical,  at least
  >  > on St.Louis Cars.  Air Cars had the same slope from above the
  >  > windows to the floor, 8-degrees/30-min on Pgh cars.  I'll send
  >  > you a scan of the Prc 17s rear elevation off list.
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  >  > Phil
  >  > Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'
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  >  > ________________________________
  >  > From: richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
  >  > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  >  > Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 11:35:17 PM
  >  > Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
  >  >
  >  > Bill-Hmm-post-war MU: Boston, Toronto, Shaker,
  >  > unless you also count Red Arow and Illinois Terminal.
  >  > Attached is photo of a set of Toronto ex-Cleveland
  >  > St. Louis -built MU PCC's-series A-12 @
  >  > TTC-since you brought it up!
  >  >  I built these around 6 years ago in HO scale.RICH
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > ----- Original Message -----
  >  > From: "Bill Robb" <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
  >  > To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
  >  > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 11:29 AM
  >  > Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
  >  >
  >  > > I also thought the pre-war cars were more graceful,
  >  > > but during the last years of the PCCs I came to appreciate
  >  > > the post-war front end was almost as graceful when
  >  > > walking by stopped TTC 4300s at Yonge and Queen.
  >  > > Unfortunately the post war back end drops straight down
  >  > > from the roof line. The tapered pre-war rear end is my
  >  > > favorite. I remember MU cars as having a less graceful profile
  >  > > than the non-MU variety because the couplers cut the lines
  >  > > off abruptly.
  >  > > Bill
  >  >
  >  > http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/DSC_0324-1.JPG
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  >  --
  >  Herb Brannon
  >  In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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  Herb Brannon
  In Cuyahoga Valley National Park