[PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs

[Dwight Long]

Derrick

When you were in Hebron, did you perchance take a look to see if there is anything left of the Buckeye Central Scenic RR?

Dwight
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Derrick Brashear 
  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
  Cc: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, 21 November, 2010 14:08
  Subject: [PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs





  On Nov 21, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:

  > Too bad. With the exception of one in the GCRTA rail collection I don't know
  > if any other Cleveland PCCs are preserved.
  > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:35, Bill Robb <bill937ca at yahoo.ca> wrote:
  > 
  >> 4684 is a rusting hulk.  It'll never run again.
  >> Bill Robb
  >> 
  >> 
  >> Former Cleveland Transit 4259 which became Toronto Transit Commission 4684
  >> currently resides at Halton County Radial Railway Museum near Guelph,
  >> Ontario. Some of the A-12 series may be rusting on a hillside in
  >> North-Central Ohio along with some other PCCs.
  >> 

  Would this be the ones just off 70? I was in Hebron last weekend to launch a weather balloon but ran out of time to visit these, alas.

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  >> .On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:03, richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
  >> wrote:
  >> 
  >>> what they were for almost their entire lives were the Toronto A-12
  >> series!
  >>> 
  >>> 
  >>> ----- Original Message -----
  >>> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
  >>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
  >>>  Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 11:28 AM
  >>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs
  >>> 
  >>> 
  >>>> While a few of these cars made it to Louisville, they never ran in that
  >>>> city. No PCC ever ran in Louisville in revenue service. The majority of
  >>>> the
  >>>> 25 cars were shipped  directly from St Louis Car Company to Cleveland
  >>>> Transit System, Cleveland, Ohio. They are ex-Cleveland cars, not
  >>>> ex-Louisville.
  >>>> 
  >>>> 
  >>>> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 00:35, Phillip Clark Campbell
  >>>> <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>wrote:
  >>>> 
  >>>>> Mr.Allman;
  >>>>> 
  >>>>> Beautiful models;  excellent overhead as well!
  >>>>> Could you please share some more model photos?
  >>>>> 
  >>>>> Mr.Robb----All Electric PCCs had slight angle of rear window
  >>>>> above the belt line;  below the belt line was vertical,  at least
  >>>>> on St.Louis Cars.  Air Cars had the same slope from above the
  >>>>> windows to the floor, 8-degrees/30-min on Pgh cars.  I'll send
  >>>>> you a scan of the Prc 17s rear elevation off list.
  >>>>> 
  >>>>> 
  >>>>> 
  >>>>> Phil
  >>>>> Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'
  >>>>> 
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  >>>>> 
  >>>>> 
  >>>>> ________________________________
  >>>>> From: richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
  >>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  >>>>> Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 11:35:17 PM
  >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
  >>>>> 
  >>>>> Bill-Hmm-post-war MU: Boston, Toronto, Shaker,
  >>>>> unless you also count Red Arow and Illinois Terminal.
  >>>>> Attached is photo of a set of Toronto ex-Cleveland
  >>>>> St. Louis -built MU PCC's-series A-12 @
  >>>>> TTC-since you brought it up!
  >>>>> I built these around 6 years ago in HO scale.RICH
  >>>>> 
  >>>>> 
  >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
  >>>>> From: "Bill Robb" <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
  >>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
  >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 11:29 AM
  >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
  >>>>> 
  >>>>>> I also thought the pre-war cars were more graceful,
  >>>>>> but during the last years of the PCCs I came to appreciate
  >>>>>> the post-war front end was almost as graceful when
  >>>>>> walking by stopped TTC 4300s at Yonge and Queen.
  >>>>>> Unfortunately the post war back end drops straight down
  >>>>>> from the roof line. The tapered pre-war rear end is my
  >>>>>> favorite. I remember MU cars as having a less graceful profile
  >>>>>> than the non-MU variety because the couplers cut the lines
  >>>>>> off abruptly.
  >>>>>> Bill
  >>>>> 
  >>>>> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/DSC_0324-1.JPG
  >>>>> 
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  >>>> --
  >>>> Herb Brannon
  >>>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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  >> --
  >> Herb Brannon
  >> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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  > Herb Brannon
  > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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