[PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs

Dwight Long dwightlong at verizon.net
Mon Nov 22 12:15:26 EST 2010


Herb

Thanks for that.  I was unaware of this effort being mounted.

Dwight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Herb Brannon 
  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
  Sent: Monday, 22 November, 2010 08:00
  Subject: [PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs


  I did a search for BCSRR and came up with this news article from several
  years ago:
  *Local scenic railroad has hopes to return
  Some claim organization failing to maintain rails
  **By JASON MCALISTER
  Advocate Reporter*

  *HEATH* -- The Buckeye Central Scenic Railroad should be up and running
  sometime this year, possibly with Thomas the Tank Engine leading the way,
  says the nonprofit group that leases and maintains the rail line through
  southern Licking County.

  But since the group, The Newark Heath and Buckeye Lake Scenic Railway Corp.,
  shut down the operation in June 2003, the railroad's owner and some Heath
  residents say the tracks are poorly maintained and the project is going
  nowhere. There's even been talk of turning the tracks into a bike path.

  *On the Web*
  Check out Buckeye Central Scenic Railroad operations on the Web at:
  http://home.insight.rr.com/pcaravan. [/color]

  The link above came up "page not found" for me. Another website claimed the
  Buckeye Central had been absorbed into a railroad named the Zanesville &
  Western.

  I will check with the Superintendent of Operations at Cuyahoga Valley to see
  if he might know anything about the Buckeye Central and let you know.

  On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 01:57, Dwight Long <dwightlong at verizon.net> wrote:

  > Derrick
  >
  > When you were in Hebron, did you perchance take a look to see if there is
  > anything left of the Buckeye Central Scenic RR?
  >
  > Dwight
  >  ----- Original Message -----
  >  From: Derrick Brashear
  >  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  >   Cc: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  >  Sent: Sunday, 21 November, 2010 14:08
  >  Subject: [PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >  On Nov 21, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
  >
  >  > Too bad. With the exception of one in the GCRTA rail collection I don't
  > know
  >  > if any other Cleveland PCCs are preserved.
  >  > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:35, Bill Robb <bill937ca at yahoo.ca> wrote:
  >  >
  >  >> 4684 is a rusting hulk.  It'll never run again.
  >  >> Bill Robb
  >  >>
  >  >>
  >  >> Former Cleveland Transit 4259 which became Toronto Transit Commission
  > 4684
  >  >> currently resides at Halton County Radial Railway Museum near Guelph,
  >  >> Ontario. Some of the A-12 series may be rusting on a hillside in
  >  >> North-Central Ohio along with some other PCCs.
  >  >>
  >
  >  Would this be the ones just off 70? I was in Hebron last weekend to launch
  > a weather balloon but ran out of time to visit these, alas.
  >
  >  >>
  >  >>
  >  >>
  >  >>
  >  >> .On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 12:03, richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
  >  >> wrote:
  >  >>
  >  >>> what they were for almost their entire lives were the Toronto A-12
  >  >> series!
  >  >>>
  >  >>>
  >  >>> ----- Original Message -----
  >  >>> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
  >  >>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
  >  >>>  Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 11:28 AM
  >  >>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs
  >  >>>
  >  >>>
  >  >>>> While a few of these cars made it to Louisville, they never ran in
  > that
  >  >>>> city. No PCC ever ran in Louisville in revenue service. The majority
  > of
  >  >>>> the
  >  >>>> 25 cars were shipped  directly from St Louis Car Company to Cleveland
  >  >>>> Transit System, Cleveland, Ohio. They are ex-Cleveland cars, not
  >  >>>> ex-Louisville.
  >  >>>>
  >  >>>>
  >  >>>> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 00:35, Phillip Clark Campbell
  >  >>>> <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>wrote:
  >  >>>>
  >  >>>>> Mr.Allman;
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>> Beautiful models;  excellent overhead as well!
  >  >>>>> Could you please share some more model photos?
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>> Mr.Robb----All Electric PCCs had slight angle of rear window
  >  >>>>> above the belt line;  below the belt line was vertical,  at least
  >  >>>>> on St.Louis Cars.  Air Cars had the same slope from above the
  >  >>>>> windows to the floor, 8-degrees/30-min on Pgh cars.  I'll send
  >  >>>>> you a scan of the Prc 17s rear elevation off list.
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>> Phil
  >  >>>>> Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>> ________________________________
  >  >>>>> From: richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
  >  >>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  >  >>>>> Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 11:35:17 PM
  >  >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>> Bill-Hmm-post-war MU: Boston, Toronto, Shaker,
  >  >>>>> unless you also count Red Arow and Illinois Terminal.
  >  >>>>> Attached is photo of a set of Toronto ex-Cleveland
  >  >>>>> St. Louis -built MU PCC's-series A-12 @
  >  >>>>> TTC-since you brought it up!
  >  >>>>> I built these around 6 years ago in HO scale.RICH
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
  >  >>>>> From: "Bill Robb" <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
  >  >>>>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
  >  >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 11:29 AM
  >  >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>>> I also thought the pre-war cars were more graceful,
  >  >>>>>> but during the last years of the PCCs I came to appreciate
  >  >>>>>> the post-war front end was almost as graceful when
  >  >>>>>> walking by stopped TTC 4300s at Yonge and Queen.
  >  >>>>>> Unfortunately the post war back end drops straight down
  >  >>>>>> from the roof line. The tapered pre-war rear end is my
  >  >>>>>> favorite. I remember MU cars as having a less graceful profile
  >  >>>>>> than the non-MU variety because the couplers cut the lines
  >  >>>>>> off abruptly.
  >  >>>>>> Bill
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/DSC_0324-1.JPG
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>>
  >  >>>>
  >  >>>>
  >  >>>> --
  >  >>>> Herb Brannon
  >  >>>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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  >  >> --
  >  >> Herb Brannon
  >  >> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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  >  > --
  >  > Herb Brannon
  >  > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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  Herb Brannon
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