[PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs

[Dwight Long]

Herb

Your second sentence is correct, but your first is only so if modified by the second.  At least PCCs got to Louisville and ran (for a nanosecond or so), unlike Denver, where the Denver Tramway Co. turned down the offer by St. Louis Car Co and LATL to borrow an LATL PCC in transit to that city.  The local newspaper even offered to pay the expenses of transshipment.  DTC turned them down flat.  Talk about having one's mind made up.  DTC and LATL were both the rare (in USA) Cape gauge, so it would have worked.

Dwight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Herb Brannon 
  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, 21 November, 2010 11:28
  Subject: [PRCo] Re: HO Ex-Louisville PCCs


  While a few of these cars made it to Louisville, they never ran in that
  city. No PCC ever ran in Louisville in revenue service. The majority of the
  25 cars were shipped  directly from St Louis Car Company to Cleveland
  Transit System, Cleveland, Ohio. They are ex-Cleveland cars, not
  ex-Louisville.


  On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 00:35, Phillip Clark Campbell <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>wrote:

  > Mr.Allman;
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  > Beautiful models;  excellent overhead as well!
  > Could you please share some more model photos?
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  > Mr.Robb----All Electric PCCs had slight angle of rear window
  > above the belt line;  below the belt line was vertical,  at least
  > on St.Louis Cars.  Air Cars had the same slope from above the
  > windows to the floor, 8-degrees/30-min on Pgh cars.  I'll send
  > you a scan of the Prc 17s rear elevation off list.
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  > Phil
  > Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'
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  > From: richard allman <allmanr at verizon.net>
  > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
  > Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 11:35:17 PM
  > Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
  >
  > Bill-Hmm-post-war MU: Boston, Toronto, Shaker,
  > unless you also count Red Arow and Illinois Terminal.
  > Attached is photo of a set of Toronto ex-Cleveland
  > St. Louis -built MU PCC's-series A-12 @
  > TTC-since you brought it up!
  >  I built these around 6 years ago in HO scale.RICH
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  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "Bill Robb" <bill937ca at yahoo.ca>
  > To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
  > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 11:29 AM
  > Subject: [PRCo] Re: SLPS/SHRT/PTC/MUNI PCC Question
  >
  > > I also thought the pre-war cars were more graceful,
  > > but during the last years of the PCCs I came to appreciate
  > > the post-war front end was almost as graceful when
  > > walking by stopped TTC 4300s at Yonge and Queen.
  > > Unfortunately the post war back end drops straight down
  > > from the roof line. The tapered pre-war rear end is my
  > > favorite. I remember MU cars as having a less graceful profile
  > > than the non-MU variety because the couplers cut the lines
  > > off abruptly.
  > > Bill
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  > http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/DSC_0324-1.JPG
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  -- 
  Herb Brannon
  In Cuyahoga Valley National Park