[PRCo] Re: A Great Brussels Museum Video

[Fred Schneider]

Well, at least Derrick, Herb, Dwight, and Ed looked at something furrin on the Pittsburgh list and seemed to enjoy it.   I don't feel too bad about posting it.   My wife gave me hell for trying to educate people.   
Frankly, sometimes I think we need to take a good long look at how other people do things.   


On Oct 4, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Derrick Brashear wrote:

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> On Oct 4, 2010, at 12:40 PM, "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net> wrote:
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>> I've never seen anything as clean as Singapore.
>> City...transit...countryside...airport...you name it.
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> Litter, get caned!
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>> On the other hand, there are the birds that share the food buffets...so
>> clean may not always equal sanitary.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Dwight
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>> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:27 PM
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: A Great Brussels Museum Video
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>> Fred
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>> That's an excellent, professionally-done, video.  Thanks for sharing!
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>> I was struck by the superb condition of the open track.  Eat your hear out,
>> Pittsburgh Railways Co!
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>> Also noticed was the fact that not all cars bore the dreaded Faively
>> "pantographs."  Real pantographs, bow collectors, and--gasp--actual trolley
>> poles still in use--wow!
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>> Wattman--one who regulates the consumption of watts?
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>> Now as to cleanth, would you venture a comparison with Singapore?  I would
>> think that it is the measuring stick these days.
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>> Dwight
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Fred Schneider
>> Sent: Sunday, 03 October, 2010 20:18
>> Subject: [PRCo] A Great Brussels Museum Video
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>> Thanks to Jack May who alerted me to this item ...
>> No it isn't Pittsburgh.   So what.   
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>> It is one rather interesting video of a Traction Extravaganza in Brussels
>> using museum equipment.   Their local trolley museum has a feature that who
>> do us all proud.   The museum carbarn sits right on a major STIB line on the
>> Rue de Turvueren.   STIB operators who are museum members run the museum
>> fleet on the outer end of city route 39 and 42 on Saturdays and Sundays.
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>> Their museum fleet is almost entirely former STIB equipment from Brussels.
>> I think they might have one Vicinal car in the museum.   But the video of
>> the extravaganza shows all sorts of wonderous other stuff ... a red car from
>> Wien (Vienna) (thats 4038 with the Schottentor destination sign), a gold and
>> brown car from Rotterdam, a cream and green PCC from the Hague, a Milan
>> Peter Witt clad in yellow, and that fantastic Liege car in two-tone green.
>> They brought stuff in from all over.   
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>> For people who like running strange cars, the Liege car has a series -
>> series/parallel - parallel drum controller, i.e. three running points:  (4
>> motors in series; 2 series pairs connected in parallel; then all motors in
>> parallel)  It goes like hell.   I rode it over that same track about ten
>> years ago before it was sent to Liege for static display.  He left ahead of
>> one schedule car and before long had caught up its leader.   
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>> The interiors of Brussels cars are easy to pick out.   You will see some
>> pictures views of a narrow PCC with do not talk to the motorman signs in two
>> languages:  Ne pas parler au Wattman (French) on the left ... and Niet
>> ........ sparken on the right (Flemish).   The old rules used to be that if
>> you wanted a job driving a bus or a streetcar in Brussels, you had to
>> bilingual or you simply were not qualified.   Can you imagine Dallas or New
>> York or San Diego or Los Angeles telling bus drivers they need to speak
>> Spanish and English if they want to drive bus?   Or the bus drivers serving
>> Alhambra (CA) need Korean, Vietnamese, Spanish and English?   
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>> The final thing I want to draw your attention to ... look for the clutter
>> and trash on the ground.   How much do you see?  Brussels is the capital of
>> Belgium, so why not compare the litter to our capital.   How does it compare
>> to Washington DC?      Now compared to most German cities, Brussels will be
>> dirtier.   Compared to Switzerland, Brussels will be a lot dirtier.   I've
>> seen Swiss people walk a block out of their way just to throw a candy
>> wrapper in a trash can.  
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>> Enjoy. 
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>> http://www.digitaletramfoto.nl/video/2010/201009/20100919-01.htm
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>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Brussels_Tramway_Museum
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