[PRCo] Re: A Great Brussels Museum Video

[John Swindler]

There is also an archives button upper left that leads to several videos of Lisbon.  Also found the Antwerp video in the archives section of interest.  Includes PCC mu train in subway.

Some of the Lisbon videos were taken in vicinity of what appears to be a large plaza near the town center.  What a difference from the area around Philadelphia's city hall. 




> From: fwschneider at comcast.net
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: A Great Brussels Museum Video
> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 15:06:47 -0400
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
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> Well, at least Derrick, Herb, Dwight, and Ed looked at something furrin on the Pittsburgh list and seemed to enjoy it.   I don't feel too bad about posting it.   My wife gave me hell for trying to educate people.   
> Frankly, sometimes I think we need to take a good long look at how other people do things.   
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> On Oct 4, 2010, at 2:30 PM, Derrick Brashear wrote:
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> > On Oct 4, 2010, at 12:40 PM, "Edward H. Lybarger" <trams2 at comcast.net> wrote:
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> >> I've never seen anything as clean as Singapore.
> >> City...transit...countryside...airport...you name it.
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> > Litter, get caned!
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> >> On the other hand, there are the birds that share the food buffets...so
> >> clean may not always equal sanitary.
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> >> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Dwight
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> >> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 12:27 PM
> >> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: A Great Brussels Museum Video
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> >> Fred
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> >> That's an excellent, professionally-done, video.  Thanks for sharing!
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> >> I was struck by the superb condition of the open track.  Eat your hear out,
> >> Pittsburgh Railways Co!
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> >> Also noticed was the fact that not all cars bore the dreaded Faively
> >> "pantographs."  Real pantographs, bow collectors, and--gasp--actual trolley
> >> poles still in use--wow!
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> >> Wattman--one who regulates the consumption of watts?
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> >> Now as to cleanth, would you venture a comparison with Singapore?  I would
> >> think that it is the measuring stick these days.
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> >> Dwight
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Fred Schneider
> >> Sent: Sunday, 03 October, 2010 20:18
> >> Subject: [PRCo] A Great Brussels Museum Video
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> >> Thanks to Jack May who alerted me to this item ...
> >> No it isn't Pittsburgh.   So what.   
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> >> It is one rather interesting video of a Traction Extravaganza in Brussels
> >> using museum equipment.   Their local trolley museum has a feature that who
> >> do us all proud.   The museum carbarn sits right on a major STIB line on the
> >> Rue de Turvueren.   STIB operators who are museum members run the museum
> >> fleet on the outer end of city route 39 and 42 on Saturdays and Sundays.
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> >> Their museum fleet is almost entirely former STIB equipment from Brussels.
> >> I think they might have one Vicinal car in the museum.   But the video of
> >> the extravaganza shows all sorts of wonderous other stuff ... a red car from
> >> Wien (Vienna) (thats 4038 with the Schottentor destination sign), a gold and
> >> brown car from Rotterdam, a cream and green PCC from the Hague, a Milan
> >> Peter Witt clad in yellow, and that fantastic Liege car in two-tone green.
> >> They brought stuff in from all over.   
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> >> For people who like running strange cars, the Liege car has a series -
> >> series/parallel - parallel drum controller, i.e. three running points:  (4
> >> motors in series; 2 series pairs connected in parallel; then all motors in
> >> parallel)  It goes like hell.   I rode it over that same track about ten
> >> years ago before it was sent to Liege for static display.  He left ahead of
> >> one schedule car and before long had caught up its leader.   
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> >> The interiors of Brussels cars are easy to pick out.   You will see some
> >> pictures views of a narrow PCC with do not talk to the motorman signs in two
> >> languages:  Ne pas parler au Wattman (French) on the left ... and Niet
> >> ........ sparken on the right (Flemish).   The old rules used to be that if
> >> you wanted a job driving a bus or a streetcar in Brussels, you had to
> >> bilingual or you simply were not qualified.   Can you imagine Dallas or New
> >> York or San Diego or Los Angeles telling bus drivers they need to speak
> >> Spanish and English if they want to drive bus?   Or the bus drivers serving
> >> Alhambra (CA) need Korean, Vietnamese, Spanish and English?   
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> >> The final thing I want to draw your attention to ... look for the clutter
> >> and trash on the ground.   How much do you see?  Brussels is the capital of
> >> Belgium, so why not compare the litter to our capital.   How does it compare
> >> to Washington DC?      Now compared to most German cities, Brussels will be
> >> dirtier.   Compared to Switzerland, Brussels will be a lot dirtier.   I've
> >> seen Swiss people walk a block out of their way just to throw a candy
> >> wrapper in a trash can.  
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> >> Enjoy. 
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> >> http://www.digitaletramfoto.nl/video/2010/201009/20100919-01.htm
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> >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Brussels_Tramway_Museum
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