[PRCo] Re: Roll signs Interurbans

[Phillip Clark Campbell]

Mr.Schneider;
It is agreed that Finleyville was not in the roll signs of Prc
PCC interurbans; it was in roll signs of some of the older
equipment, possibly the Brills and St.Louis interurbans.
>From reading the archives I believe Mr.Lybarger recognized
that the old interurbans had destinations for all the local
lines in Washington even though they couldn't access
same.  A reason was not given.  One could only guess
that it was thought loops would be installed at the time
the signs were made.  Prc had loops on many lines
which eased the transition to PCCs but certainly not all
lines;  some loops were installed as late as the latter 1940s.
I can't find my listing of PCC interurban destinations.


Phil
Without  a   'coast'   but  not  a   'cause.'





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From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 11:03:24 AM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: Roll signs Interurbans

I owned a brand-new PCC roll which I gave to PTM.   It did not have ROSCOE on 
it.   It didn't have FINLEYVILLE on it.  


And remember, before we obfuscate this again, that the "Elco Loop," was not in 
Elco but wholly within Roscoe at the borough line.  


On Oct 31, 2010, at 2:18 AM, Dwight Long wrote:

> Fred
> 
> But there WAS in the PCC era, short turn service between Charleroi and Elco.
> 
> Also, there was (inexplicably) a reading in the PCC interurban sign rolls of 
>FINLEYVILLE.
> 
> PITTSBURGH was a useful reading to distinguish cars going through.  You are 
>right, though, that it was used in the minority of cases.  Motorman laziness, I 
>guess.
> 
> Dwight
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Fred Schneider 
>  To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org 
>  Sent: Saturday, 30 October, 2010 19:09
>  Subject: [PRCo] Re: Roll signs Interurbans
> 
> 
>  What year?
> 
>  WASHINGTON
>  CANONSBURG
>  PITTSBURGH
>  CHARLEROI
>  RIVERVIEW
>  CASTLE SHANNON
>  LIBRARY
> 
>  After about 1952 two other signs were added for off peak service to 
>distinguish local service in the non-rush hour periods 
>
> 
>  SHANNON-WASHINGTON
>  SHANNON-CHARLEROI
> 
>  In 1953 you can add
> 
>  SHANNON-LIBRARY
>  SHANNON-DRAKE
> 
>  The Pittsburgh signs were seldom used.   That would be like taking an 
>8-PERRYSVILLE sign and changing it to PITTSBURGH.  Everybody was supposed to 
>know an inbound car was going there.   In the early years there were cutback 
>like extra service between Washington and Canonsburg but that didn't happen in 
>the PCC era.  
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  On Oct 30, 2010, at 10:44 AM, rayprco53 at verizon.net wrote:
> 
>> Hello, I know this was posted before but I can't find it. Could someone repost 
>>the route destinations 
>>
>> for the two interurban lines? I talking about the PCC roll signs.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Ray