[PRCo] Re: PATransit East Busway

Herb Brannon hrbran at cavtel.net
Fri Dec 16 20:34:22 EST 2011


That's a good enough answer. I was discussing Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) with
a couple of my TTC friends. They came up with several BRT systems and the
average ridership but did not mention Pittsburgh's Busways. The East Busway
was one of the first in North America being opened in 1983 and I just
needed a very average figure to put along with my mention of the East
Busway. In fact I reduced the passenger count down to 24,000 weekday
riders. I'm sure the 30,000 figure was during the economic "good times" of
the 1990s.
If anyone wants to do the finite research then have at it. It would be
interesting to see what the figures are now.

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 14:24, Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com> wrote:

> you found an answer which may have been correct for some point in
> time. there's no date there.
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
> > Found the answer on the "Pittsburgh Highways" website:
> > This busway serves downtown Pittsburgh, East End, and the eastern suburbs
> > of Allegheny County.  The average rider ship for routes using the busway
> > are 30,000 daily and 7.5 million a year.   It is designed for speeds up
> to
> > 55 MPH, lower speed limits are applied in some twists in the valley.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 17:09, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
> >
> >> There still has to be an "average" number of passengers carried each
> >> weekday on the East Busway on all routes. The average number of light
> rail
> >> passengers (from all rail routes) is over 24,000 per day. I just need to
> >> know the "KISS" rough average of all passengers carried on the East
> Busway.
> >> Where they come from makes no difference.
> >>
> >> The PATransit website gives light rail and "total" bus (all routes
> >> systemwide) figures for each day but does not break down the difference
> >> between local bus, express, and Busway daily totals.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 15:18, Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> That would be difficult to ascertain because, unlike the Newark City
> >>> Subway today and more like the subway as original configured, the East
> >>> Busway is a funnel for many routes in the east end.
> >>>
> >>> Are you trying to find a number for simply the passengers who board at
> >>> stations along the busway, or board downtown and get off along the
> busway?
> >>>
> >>> Or are you looking for a total of all riders on the routes that use the
> >>> busway, which would be much larger number?   If you want everything
> using
> >>> the busway, you have to consider multiple agencies Herb.   Westmoreland
> >>> County Transit Authority buses running into Pittsburgh also use the
> busway.
> >>>   It is not limited to just PAT routes.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 15, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Herb Brannon wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Does anyone know the average daily ridership on the East Busway?
> >>> > --
> >>> > Herb Brannon
> >>> > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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> >> Herb Brannon
> >> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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> > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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Herb Brannon
In Cuyahoga Valley National Park





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