[PRCo] Re: PATransit East Busway

[Herb Brannon]

As an aside to the East Busway article on the Pittsburgh Highways website
and for those who read the article, you may have noticed the mention of the
first accident on the busway on September 29, 1983. Ed Butko and I served
in the same US Army Reserve unit (Co D, 458th Combat Engineers) at the
Leech Farm Road USAR Center and were good friends.
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 20:44, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:

> The old Lincoln Coach routes were brought into PATransit back in 1978 or
> 1979. I know there was a big argument between PATransit and ATU Local 85
> because PATransit brought all the Lincoln Coach operators into the system
> at full PAT pay and allowed them to continue to work the Lincoln Coach
> routes even though the labor agreement, at that time, called for a "system
> pick" prior to the start of the annexed services so that all employees
> would be able to bid onto those lines if their seniority allowed. The labor
> agreement also called for the operators absorbed into the PAT system to go
> to the pay bracket their seniority permitted them to go to and then advance
> to the top pay bracket in the normal progression. I believe PAT brought all
> the Lincoln Coach operators in at top pay.
>
> I haven't kept up with the happenings on the old Lincoln Coach lines over
> the years. They may have abandoned those routes for all I know.
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 15:45, Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>wrote:
>
>> And it said eastern suburbs of Allegheny County so that is obviously
>> excluding the WCTA routes (i.e. the old Lincoln Coach and what evolved out
>> of it).
>>
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>> On Dec 16, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Derrick Brashear wrote:
>>
>> > you found an answer which may have been correct for some point in
>> > time. there's no date there.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net>
>> wrote:
>> >> Found the answer on the "Pittsburgh Highways" website:
>> >> This busway serves downtown Pittsburgh, East End, and the eastern
>> suburbs
>> >> of Allegheny County.  The average rider ship for routes using the
>> busway
>> >> are 30,000 daily and 7.5 million a year.   It is designed for speeds
>> up to
>> >> 55 MPH, lower speed limits are applied in some twists in the valley.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 17:09, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> There still has to be an "average" number of passengers carried each
>> >>> weekday on the East Busway on all routes. The average number of light
>> rail
>> >>> passengers (from all rail routes) is over 24,000 per day. I just need
>> to
>> >>> know the "KISS" rough average of all passengers carried on the East
>> Busway.
>> >>> Where they come from makes no difference.
>> >>>
>> >>> The PATransit website gives light rail and "total" bus (all routes
>> >>> systemwide) figures for each day but does not break down the
>> difference
>> >>> between local bus, express, and Busway daily totals.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 15:18, Fred Schneider <
>> fwschneider at comcast.net>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> That would be difficult to ascertain because, unlike the Newark City
>> >>>> Subway today and more like the subway as original configured, the
>> East
>> >>>> Busway is a funnel for many routes in the east end.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Are you trying to find a number for simply the passengers who board
>> at
>> >>>> stations along the busway, or board downtown and get off along the
>> busway?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Or are you looking for a total of all riders on the routes that use
>> the
>> >>>> busway, which would be much larger number?   If you want everything
>> using
>> >>>> the busway, you have to consider multiple agencies Herb.
>> Westmoreland
>> >>>> County Transit Authority buses running into Pittsburgh also use the
>> busway.
>> >>>>   It is not limited to just PAT routes.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Dec 15, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Herb Brannon wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Does anyone know the average daily ridership on the East Busway?
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Herb Brannon
>> >>>>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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>> >>> Herb Brannon
>> >>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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>> >> Herb Brannon
>> >> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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> Herb Brannon
> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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Herb Brannon
In Cuyahoga Valley National Park