[PRCo] Re: Fw: Route 54

Sun Jun 26 22:39:13 EDT 2011

IT'S IN THE ROUTE CARDS.   THAT COMPUTER DOESN'T WANT TO RECOGNIZE WINDOWS.   IT JUST WANTS DOS RIGHT NOW AND I'M NOT GOING TO HUNT A COMPUTER GURU JUST TO GET TO THE ROUTE CARDS.   MAYBE ED HAS TIME.

On Jun 26, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Herb Brannon wrote:

> Yes, we figured out that it was a fantrip three hours ago.
> Does anyone know the routing (lefts and rights) of Route 54 ? Better yet,
> why was it numbered into the Second Avenue routes ? While we're on the
> subject of routing, why was the 81-Atwood a Forbes Avenue route ? 81, if
> routed true to it's corridor should have come out Centre Avenue then perhaps
> down Craig to Forbes then to Atwood. (Maybe at one time it did) Anyone know
> the answers to these burning questions ?
> 
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 21:08, Dwight Long <dwightlong at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Herb
>> 
>> Not so!
>> 
>> That was an enthusiast tour operated by PERC.  I was also on it, and have a
>> similar fot.  This was the last pax use of the last Jones car prior to its
>> being converted to the PRC paint car.
>> 
>> Dwight
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 5:03 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Fw: Route 54
>> 
>> 
>>> I found this Bill Volkmer photo of PRCo 5432 on Forbes Avenue, Sept 8,
>> 1956
>>> with the 54-Fifth & Craig St Only sign. This is obviously a revenue trip;
>>> so
>>> the 54 did operate as a separate line.
>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 18:06, Edward H. Lybarger
>>> <trams2 at comcast.net>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yes, they traveled all over the place.  The poster doesn't put a day
>> with
>>>> the date, or I could make a good guess.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
>> Herb
>>>> Brannon
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 6:04 PM
>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Fw: Route 54
>>>> 
>>>> The orchestra was in business from c1935 until 1972. Hard to say when
>>>> they
>>>> were in Pittsburgh without doing a search of the newspapers.
>>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 17:11, Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> This could have been a railfan movement.  I never heard of PCC cars on
>>>>> 54, even though the sign may have been there.  If it's Lincoln Avenue
>>>>> loop, the topography appears to be OK.  The picture is so distorted
>>>>> that it's hard to put it all into perspective.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now we just need to determine when the Johnny Long Orchestra was in
>>>>> Pittsburgh.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>>>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Bob Rathke
>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 4:33 PM
>>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Fw: Route 54
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It doesn't look like Craft which didn't have a high hill close to the
>>>>> car
>>>>> house.   Possibly Carrick car house?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I also noted the sign on the car to the right advertising Vogue
>>>>> Terrace which was a dinner theater in East Pittsburgh; in it's heyday
>>>>> in the 30's and 40's it hosted big bands such as Lawrence Welk, and in
>>>>> the 50's singers and other entertainers. It was destroyed in a fire in
>>>> May, 1963.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: "Matthew R Barry" <mrb190 at pitt.edu>
>>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 1:39:37 PM
>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Fw: Route 54
>>>>> 
>>>>> A short-working of 77/54?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Interesting photo.   Craft Car House maybe?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
>>>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> rayprco53 at verizon.net
>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 2:29 PM
>>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Fw: Route 54
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>>>> --
>>>> Herb Brannon
>>>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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>>> --
>>> Herb Brannon
>>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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> -- 
> Herb Brannon
> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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