[PRCo] Re: Fw: Route 54
Herb Brannon
hrbran at cavtel.net
Mon Jun 27 12:08:31 EDT 2011
Thanks for this information. Next time you're near the route cards check out
the 81-Atwood. I always wondered if it was, at some time, one of the Centre
Avenue corridor routes.
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 08:14, Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>wrote:
> I don't really have a lot of time this week, but...
>
> It was in Second Avenue route numbering because they had to put it
> somewhere, and since Route 53 left town on that street and 54 went up 18th
> Street and out Brownsville Road like 53, it was logical. Quikie glimpse at
> routings:
>
> 2-18-15 From crossover on Southern Ave. (later Brownsville Road) and Hazel
> St. via Southern, S. 18th, Mary, S. 19th, Sidney, S. 22nd, 22nd (Brady) St.
> Bridge, Forbes St and return via reverse of same route.
>
> 2-1-16 Extended southward to Church Ave. (Carrick CH).
>
> 3-13-24 Extended to Brentwood Loop.
>
> 10-19-25 Operated Brady, Wharton, S. 22nd to Mary, thence over original
> route to EOL. Operation over Sidney and S. 19 th discontinued.
>
> 8-17-26 Extended from Forbes and Brady to Duquesne Garden via Forbes to
> Craig and return.
>
> 3-14-27 Rerouted from Craig to Halket to Forbes and thence over original
> route.
>
> 5-19-30 Combined with Route 607 to form Destination 77/54 North Side --
> Carrick via Bloomfield.
>
> Ed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of Fred
> Schneider
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 10:39 PM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Fw: Route 54
>
> IT'S IN THE ROUTE CARDS. THAT COMPUTER DOESN'T WANT TO RECOGNIZE WINDOWS.
> IT JUST WANTS DOS RIGHT NOW AND I'M NOT GOING TO HUNT A COMPUTER GURU JUST
> TO GET TO THE ROUTE CARDS. MAYBE ED HAS TIME.
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Herb Brannon wrote:
>
> > Yes, we figured out that it was a fantrip three hours ago.
> > Does anyone know the routing (lefts and rights) of Route 54 ? Better
> > yet, why was it numbered into the Second Avenue routes ? While we're
> > on the subject of routing, why was the 81-Atwood a Forbes Avenue route
> > ? 81, if routed true to it's corridor should have come out Centre
> > Avenue then perhaps down Craig to Forbes then to Atwood. (Maybe at one
> > time it did) Anyone know the answers to these burning questions ?
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 21:08, Dwight Long <dwightlong at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Herb
> >>
> >> Not so!
> >>
> >> That was an enthusiast tour operated by PERC. I was also on it, and
> >> have a similar fot. This was the last pax use of the last Jones car
> >> prior to its being converted to the PRC paint car.
> >>
> >> Dwight
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Herb Brannon" <hrbran at cavtel.net>
> >> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org>
> >> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 5:03 PM
> >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Fw: Route 54
> >>
> >>
> >>> I found this Bill Volkmer photo of PRCo 5432 on Forbes Avenue, Sept
> >>> 8,
> >> 1956
> >>> with the 54-Fifth & Craig St Only sign. This is obviously a revenue
> >>> trip; so the 54 did operate as a separate line.
> >>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 18:06, Edward H. Lybarger
> >>> <trams2 at comcast.net>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Yes, they traveled all over the place. The poster doesn't put a
> >>>> day
> >> with
> >>>> the date, or I could make a good guess.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> >>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf Of
> >> Herb
> >>>> Brannon
> >>>> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 6:04 PM
> >>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Fw: Route 54
> >>>>
> >>>> The orchestra was in business from c1935 until 1972. Hard to say
> >>>> when they were in Pittsburgh without doing a search of the
> >>>> newspapers.
> >>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 17:11, Edward H. Lybarger
> >>>> <trams2 at comcast.net
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> This could have been a railfan movement. I never heard of PCC
> >>>>> cars on 54, even though the sign may have been there. If it's
> >>>>> Lincoln Avenue loop, the topography appears to be OK. The picture
> >>>>> is so distorted that it's hard to put it all into perspective.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now we just need to determine when the Johnny Long Orchestra was
> >>>>> in Pittsburgh.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> >>>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf
> >>>>> Of Bob Rathke
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 4:33 PM
> >>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Fw: Route 54
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It doesn't look like Craft which didn't have a high hill close to
> >>>>> the car
> >>>>> house. Possibly Carrick car house?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I also noted the sign on the car to the right advertising Vogue
> >>>>> Terrace which was a dinner theater in East Pittsburgh; in it's
> >>>>> heyday in the 30's and 40's it hosted big bands such as Lawrence
> >>>>> Welk, and in the 50's singers and other entertainers. It was
> >>>>> destroyed in a fire in
> >>>> May, 1963.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bob
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From: "Matthew R Barry" <mrb190 at pitt.edu>
> >>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 1:39:37 PM
> >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Fw: Route 54
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A short-working of 77/54?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Interesting photo. Craft Car House maybe?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org
> >>>>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementia.org] On Behalf
> >>>>> Of rayprco53 at verizon.net
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 2:29 PM
> >>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Fw: Route 54
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> >>>> Herb Brannon
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> > Herb Brannon
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