[PRCo] Re: The Rest of the World -Electric Rails - Britain

[Fred Schneider]

I don't think so.  You've got to go sometime.  We put too much emphasis on the line "I'm from the government and I'm here to help and protect you."  Bull.   I'm responsible in large measure for me.   You for you.   Derrick for Derrick.   Dwight for Dwight.    But I seriously believe if you want to live on the planet, you have to accept some responsibility.   

If you don't like the risk of riding the streetcar or the train or the plane or driving, then, Phil,  take the risk of walking. 

If you don't like the risk of a Cheesburger covered with mayonaise fourteen meals a week, then eat something more heart healthy but don't blame the guy who is eating his way off the planet.

I let you prove that people survive identical plane crashes today.   Identical meaning same same speed from same elevation as they did 5 or six decades ago.   You collect the data.   Just because I pilot was able to put a jet down in the Hudson River near the shore (the luck that he was there).   By the way, there were 881 killed in flight accidents last year and 430 survivors and I don't know how many of those survivors came from low speed accidents on the tarmac where they were able to jump from burning planes.      You can carry it back farther.   When you plunge into a mountain from 30,000 feet at 1000 kph or an ocean with no one to rescue you, you die.    


On Mar 9, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:

> Mr.Schneider;
> That's an understatement isn't it.
> At those speeds no design covers
> all bases.  It's interesting to consider
> that people survive plane crashes
> these days;  that didn't seem to be
> the case 5 or 6 decades ago.
> Some of the European tram accidents
> are quite spectacular;  they put other
> vehicles air borne.
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> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 8:19:08 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: The Rest of the World -Electric Rails - Britain
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> There is no perfect world?
>   But remember that slamming into the end of
> a car that didn't crumple isn't perfect either?
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> The ideal design is a car that crumples.
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> On Mar 9, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:
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>> Mr.Schneider;  Did you forget these?
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odZfe9XKZS8&feature=fvsr
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiaaMrkBxvo
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>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfqqbAHQo_0
>> On June 29, 1995, a severe train crash 
>> happened in Northern Germany: 
>> passenger train crashed into a standing 
>> freight train at full speed (120  km/h) near
>> Horst in Schleswig-Holstein. 
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>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c_FaswfOe4
>> The Eschede train disaster was the
>> world's deadliest high-speed train  accident.
>> It occurred on 3 June 1998, near the
>> village of Eschede in the  Celle district
>> of Lower Saxony, Germany. The toll of
>> 101 dead and 88  injured surpassed
>> the 1971 Dahlerau train disaster as the
>> deadliest  accident in the history of the
>> Federal Republic of Germany.
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>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VgP4qJrCWw
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>> Interesting:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnWzxwvXJDg&feature=related
>> During World War 2 the United States Office
>> of Strategic Services &  National Defence
>> Research Committee performed a
>> number of tests to  determine the most
>> effective way to disrupt ememy railroad services.
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>> 
>> Phil
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
>> Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 11:45:54 AM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: The Rest of the World -Electric Rails - Britain
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>> Yes, Dwight, but not the buff strength issues.
>> Isn't it amazing that in Germany, they can run
>> freight trains and 180 mph passenger trains
>> on the same tracks with urban streetcars
>> because they put their emphasis on making
>> sure things don't come together.
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