[PRCo] Re: The Rest of the World -Electric Rails - Britain

[Phillip Clark Campbell]

Mr.Schneider;
You are creating fog now aren't you.
Agreed about responsibility;  that is
why public transit providers need to
be 'responsible' to offer the highest
degree of 'responsibility.'  The transit
company is offering a service;  they
need to be as 'responsible' as anyone else.

My observation about plane accidents
is very general isn't it.  It 'seems' that
with more modern jets and faster speeds
there are many more cases where people
survive accidents than they did many
decades ago.  This is to the credit of the
industry isn't it.  The safety record in
airlines today seems very good.


 Phil






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From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 12:07:05 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: The Rest of the World -Electric Rails - Britain

I don't think so.  You've got to go sometime.  We put too much emphasis on the 
line "I'm from the government and I'm here to help and protect you."  Bull.   
I'm responsible in large measure for me.   You for you.   Derrick for Derrick.   
Dwight for Dwight.    But I seriously believe if you want to live on the planet, 
you have to accept some responsibility.  


If you don't like the risk of riding the streetcar or the train or the plane or 
driving, then, Phil,  take the risk of walking. 


If you don't like the risk of a Cheesburger covered with mayonaise fourteen 
meals a week, then eat something more heart healthy but don't blame the guy who 
is eating his way off the planet.

I let you prove that people survive identical plane crashes today.   Identical 
meaning same same speed from same elevation as they did 5 or six decades ago.   
You collect the data.   Just because I pilot was able to put a jet down in the 
Hudson River near the shore (the luck that he was there).   By the way, there 
were 881 killed in flight accidents last year and 430 survivors and I don't know 
how many of those survivors came from low speed accidents on the tarmac where 
they were able to jump from burning planes.      You can carry it back farther.   
When you plunge into a mountain from 30,000 feet at 1000 kph or an ocean with no 
one to rescue you, you die.    



On Mar 9, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:

> Mr.Schneider;
> That's an understatement isn't it.
> At those speeds no design covers
> all bases.  It's interesting to consider
> that people survive plane crashes
> these days;  that didn't seem to be
> the case 5 or 6 decades ago.
> Some of the European tram accidents
> are quite spectacular;  they put other
> vehicles air borne.
> 
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Fred Schneider <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementia.org
> Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 8:19:08 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: The Rest of the World -Electric Rails - Britain
> 
> There is no perfect world?
>   But remember that slamming into the end of
> a car that didn't crumple isn't perfect either?
> 
> The ideal design is a car that crumples.
> 
> 
> On Mar 9, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Mr.Schneider;  Did you forget these?
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odZfe9XKZS8&feature=fvsr
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiaaMrkBxvo
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfqqbAHQo_0
>> On June 29, 1995, a severe train crash 
>> happened in Northern Germany: 
>> passenger train crashed into a standing 
>> freight train at full speed (120  km/h) near
>> Horst in Schleswig-Holstein. 
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c_FaswfOe4
>> The Eschede train disaster was the
>> world's deadliest high-speed train  accident.
>> It occurred on 3 June 1998, near the
>> village of Eschede in the  Celle district
>> of Lower Saxony, Germany. The toll of
>> 101 dead and 88  injured surpassed
>> the 1971 Dahlerau train disaster as the
>> deadliest  accident in the history of the
>> Federal Republic of Germany.
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VgP4qJrCWw
>> 
>> Interesting:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnWzxwvXJDg&feature=related
>> During World War 2 the United States Office
>> of Strategic Services &  National Defence
>> Research Committee performed a
>> number of tests to  determine the most
>> effective way to disrupt ememy railroad services.
>> 
>> 
>> Phil