[PRCo] Re: PRCo Evergreen

Dwight Long dwightlong at verizon.net
Mon Sep 5 18:41:23 EDT 2011


Fred

I don't have the "facts" here but my recollection is that they were in 
regular tripper service until the fall of 1951, at least a few of them.

Dwight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:16 PM
Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRCo Evergreen


> There was, I believe, 1 3800 and 1 3700 that remained at Charleroi on the 
> active roster for a while in case of need.   I have seen pictures of them 
> in 1950.
>
>
> On Sep 5, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Dwight Long wrote:
>
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> Your comment about 3700s and 3800s stored at Millvale is interesting.  I 
>> was
>> unaware of this.
>>
>> Apparently after their last tripper use the fleet was stored in several
>> places.  I recall seeing some at Charleroi.
>>
>> One Saturday in 1952 I was going to the Jenkins Arcade for my monthly
>> orthodontist appointment and whilst standing in the shelter house at the
>> P&LE station, I saw a long procession of 3700s and 3800s come out of the
>> tunnel, turn left, and proceed out West Carson Street.  I had no camera 
>> and
>> also no knowledge of why this strange move.  Of course I later learned 
>> that
>> they were destined to the scrap track at Ingram.  Why they were moved en
>> masse I know not.  It was a goodly number but by no means the entire 
>> fleet
>> of both series.
>>
>> Sewickley and Ingram were closer to my home town.  Ask if you need to 
>> know
>> something--I might know.  But probably not.  It's been a long
>> time--------------------
>>
>> Dwight
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>> To: "Pittsburgh Railways" <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
>> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 1:23 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRCo Evergreen
>>
>>
>>> Ray,
>>>
>>> I don't propose to be a know it all.   My grandparents lived at 3462
>>> Delaware Avenue, which was one block off Perrysville at the Venture 
>>> Street
>>> carstop.   My mother's brother moved up to Cheswick the very day that
>>> monster snowstorm hit in 1951 (the moving van was emptied but didn't get
>>> back to Pittsburgh for several days).   OK ... now put this into
>>> perspective.   We live in the other end of the state.   We go home to
>>> Pittsburgh to visit Grandma and Grandpa.
>>>
>>> Now my mom wants to visit her brother.   My father, who had lived in the
>>> Pittsburgh area from 1929 until 1949 isn't dumb.   He isn't going to 
>>> drive
>>> into the lower north side and then up the river.   Too many traffic
>>> lights.
>>>
>>> You drive down Venture to East and out East to Evergreen and over the
>>> hilltop to Millvale and then  up the river ... saves a few minutes.
>>> (Because of that route I also remember the aging 3700s and 3800s sitting
>>> in Millvale Yard awaiting scrapping after PCCs went into service on the
>>> interubans.)
>>>
>>> But in the process many times I saw the yellow car waiting at the end of
>>> the 12 line.   Then when we went out for Grandpa's funeral in December
>>> 1953, there were two double end Jones cars at Keating Car House.   Route
>>> 12 had just been replaced with a Manchester - Evergreen bus.
>>>
>>> I also remember details like the Laketon Road car because we lived in 
>>> Penn
>>> Township.
>>>
>>> But don't expect me to understand Ingram or Sewickley or Carnegie.
>>>
>>> Some places you look at and the mind instantly says, I know where that 
>>> is.
>>> Other things ... duh.   I just drove up Evergreen Road and turned there 
>>> so
>>> many times that it was imprinted.
>>>
>>> Fred
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 5, 2011, at 12:57 PM, rayprco53 at verizon.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks a bunch.
>>>> ------Original Message------
>>>> From: Ray
>>>> Sender: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org
>>>> To: PRCo
>>>> ReplyTo: PRCo
>>>> Subject: [PRCo] PRCo Evergreen
>>>> Sent: Sep 5, 2011 12:20 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello. Found this picture at Historic Pittsburgh web site.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> End of Route 12 Evergreen? I can not line this up with
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> google maps. Can someone help me?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ray
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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