[PRCo] Re: PRCo Evergreen

[Fred Schneider]

Could be.   I was living in eastern Pennsylvania then.


On Sep 5, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Dwight Long wrote:

> 
> Fred
> 
> I don't have the "facts" here but my recollection is that they were in 
> regular tripper service until the fall of 1951, at least a few of them.
> 
> Dwight
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:16 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRCo Evergreen
> 
> 
>> There was, I believe, 1 3800 and 1 3700 that remained at Charleroi on the 
>> active roster for a while in case of need.   I have seen pictures of them 
>> in 1950.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 5, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Dwight Long wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Fred
>>> 
>>> Your comment about 3700s and 3800s stored at Millvale is interesting.  I 
>>> was
>>> unaware of this.
>>> 
>>> Apparently after their last tripper use the fleet was stored in several
>>> places.  I recall seeing some at Charleroi.
>>> 
>>> One Saturday in 1952 I was going to the Jenkins Arcade for my monthly
>>> orthodontist appointment and whilst standing in the shelter house at the
>>> P&LE station, I saw a long procession of 3700s and 3800s come out of the
>>> tunnel, turn left, and proceed out West Carson Street.  I had no camera 
>>> and
>>> also no knowledge of why this strange move.  Of course I later learned 
>>> that
>>> they were destined to the scrap track at Ingram.  Why they were moved en
>>> masse I know not.  It was a goodly number but by no means the entire 
>>> fleet
>>> of both series.
>>> 
>>> Sewickley and Ingram were closer to my home town.  Ask if you need to 
>>> know
>>> something--I might know.  But probably not.  It's been a long
>>> time--------------------
>>> 
>>> Dwight
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>>> To: "Pittsburgh Railways" <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 1:23 PM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRCo Evergreen
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Ray,
>>>> 
>>>> I don't propose to be a know it all.   My grandparents lived at 3462
>>>> Delaware Avenue, which was one block off Perrysville at the Venture 
>>>> Street
>>>> carstop.   My mother's brother moved up to Cheswick the very day that
>>>> monster snowstorm hit in 1951 (the moving van was emptied but didn't get
>>>> back to Pittsburgh for several days).   OK ... now put this into
>>>> perspective.   We live in the other end of the state.   We go home to
>>>> Pittsburgh to visit Grandma and Grandpa.
>>>> 
>>>> Now my mom wants to visit her brother.   My father, who had lived in the
>>>> Pittsburgh area from 1929 until 1949 isn't dumb.   He isn't going to 
>>>> drive
>>>> into the lower north side and then up the river.   Too many traffic
>>>> lights.
>>>> 
>>>> You drive down Venture to East and out East to Evergreen and over the
>>>> hilltop to Millvale and then  up the river ... saves a few minutes.
>>>> (Because of that route I also remember the aging 3700s and 3800s sitting
>>>> in Millvale Yard awaiting scrapping after PCCs went into service on the
>>>> interubans.)
>>>> 
>>>> But in the process many times I saw the yellow car waiting at the end of
>>>> the 12 line.   Then when we went out for Grandpa's funeral in December
>>>> 1953, there were two double end Jones cars at Keating Car House.   Route
>>>> 12 had just been replaced with a Manchester - Evergreen bus.
>>>> 
>>>> I also remember details like the Laketon Road car because we lived in 
>>>> Penn
>>>> Township.
>>>> 
>>>> But don't expect me to understand Ingram or Sewickley or Carnegie.
>>>> 
>>>> Some places you look at and the mind instantly says, I know where that 
>>>> is.
>>>> Other things ... duh.   I just drove up Evergreen Road and turned there 
>>>> so
>>>> many times that it was imprinted.
>>>> 
>>>> Fred
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 5, 2011, at 12:57 PM, rayprco53 at verizon.net wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks a bunch.
>>>>> ------Original Message------
>>>>> From: Ray
>>>>> Sender: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org
>>>>> To: PRCo
>>>>> ReplyTo: PRCo
>>>>> Subject: [PRCo] PRCo Evergreen
>>>>> Sent: Sep 5, 2011 12:20 PM
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello. Found this picture at Historic Pittsburgh web site.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> End of Route 12 Evergreen? I can not line this up with
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> google maps. Can someone help me?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ray
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