[PRCo] Re: Making sense of the PRC assignments....

[Fred Schneider]

Are you making a sweeping generalization Phillip?   :<)

Why would they a carbarn at 30th and Carson Streets if route 50 didn't use it?   Doesn't make sense does it?

January 8, 1928 moved from 30th St., when the barn closed, to Craft Avenue.   

July 5, 1928, 30th and Carson reopened.

April 3, 1933 restored to Craft Avenue

At some time after the route card posting ceased, it became a Tunnel Route.   




On Feb 20, 2012, at 9:06 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:

> Mr.Long,
> The 50-line was based at Craft.  The first curve from tunnel to E.Carson
> is there; the 2nd curve wasn't built until the 2-curves from W.Carson
> were built.
> 
> I am attaching a picture of 1201 again to this email.  You shall NOT receive
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> 
> Please note total absence of tracks to and from W.Carson.
> Look at the car stop sign immediately above 1201.  In the same span is
> the frog to turn to E.Carson.  It is a little difficult to see the track but it
> is there.
> 
>  
> Phil
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Dwight Long <dwightlong at verizon.net>
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org 
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:47 PM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Making sense of the PRC assignments....
> 
> Phil (sent from my portable computer)
> 
> AIR, there were double curves between East Carson and the tunnel.  However, 
> I don't have my maps with me here so I can't verify that.  But if not, how 
> would cars coming off route on 50 get to the car house?
> 
> I'll take another look at the map later, but I think you are right about the 
> lack of a straight through track on Carson.  There would be no need for it. 
> I think I made an error there--with respect to calling it a Grand Union.
> 
> With respect to cars signed 23 on any part of the South Hills downtown 
> loops, that fact is not dispositive.  23 may or may not have been rerouted 
> to use one of the South Hills loops.  I know nothing of this, but that does 
> not mean it did not happen.  In my day it always used the West End downtown 
> loop.  Assuming the base cars always did so, the cars to which you referred 
> could just be feed on or feed off runs and not base trips.
> 
> We would need access to route guides or old timetables from Way Back to sort 
> all this out.  And it all assumes that the curves between the tunnel and 
> West Carson are some latter day installation.  In my day they were always 
> there, and their use would be the logical way to feed cars based at Tunnel 
> Car House on and off Rt. 23.
> 
> Dwight
> 
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