[PRCo] Re: so where was it?

Bob Rathke bobrathke at comcast.net
Wed Feb 29 10:49:44 EST 2012


The White Tower restaurants in Pittsburgh  - at least the ones on E.Ohio St. and Cedar Ave. on the North Side, and Liberty Ave. and Penn Ave. downtown - had just a small counter and maybe 6 stools. 



The White Castles in Chicago are larger and have a few tables and chairs. 



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From: "Derrick Brashear" <shadow at gmail.com> 
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org 
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:37:32 AM 
Subject: [PRCo] Re: so where was it? 

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote: 
> Could it have been an old White CASTLE restaurant? They were similar to 
> White Tower in design. Most of them are gone now. Cleveland has a few 
> remaining and Pittsburgh shows one remaining. 

Pittsburgh never had White Castle. The nearest White Castle is currently Akron. 
I checked 2 days ago for unrelated reasons. 

> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:06, Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com> wrote: 
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote: 
>> > A couple of the photos in that series were taken at US Steel Wheel & Axle 
>> > Works which is at Nichol Avenue and Graham Street, McKees Rocks. Nichol 
>> is 
>> > the street on which the PRCo #24 line ran. Island Avenue is just above 
>> > Nichol Avenue. 
>> 
>> 
>> yeah. but that i can tell there was no white tower there, and i can't 
>> find a spot that looks exactly like that. 
>> 
>> there was a white tower on chartiers ave, until 2010. it's still in 
>> the google streetview. 
>> 
>> > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 09:48, Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com> 
>> wrote: 
>> > 
>> >> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> 
>> wrote: 
>> >> > If you look at other photos in the WGRF #14 Outing you see that some 
>> of 
>> >> > them were taken in McKees Rocks. Could the bus photo be in the McKees 
>> >> Rocks 
>> >> > area? The bus would have been assigned to Collier if that is the case. 
>> >> 
>> >> it looks like above island avenue in stowe, terrain-wise. 
>> >> 
>> >> > 
>> >> > On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 00:23, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> 
>> wrote: 
>> >> > 
>> >> >> It looks like a White Tower which has been converted to a private 
>> owner 
>> >> >> restaurant. 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Reverse telephone number files place the PNB telephone number (on the 
>> >> sign 
>> >> >> on the building) in two possible places. One is Dravosburgh the other 
>> >> >> Coraopolis. Bear in mind that was 33 years ago also. 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> In 1979 PATransit bus 2464 could have been at West Mifflin or 
>> Collier. 
>> >> >> Harmar Garage had 2400s but I remember them in the low numbers. It 
>> did 
>> >> not 
>> >> >> work out of  East Liberty because there were no 2400s there in 1979, 
>> >> only 
>> >> >> 2100s, 2300s, and 2500s in the PAT-purchased GMC new-look bus 
>> series. If 
>> >> >> that information helps narrow down the location. The bus probably was 
>> >> on a 
>> >> >> charter for the WGRF (Worlds Greatest RailFans). 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 23:49, Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com> 
>> >> wrote: 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >>> http://www.pbase.com/michaeljsosalla/image/134077016 
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>> That looks like a White Tower, but no White Tower I know of fits: 
>> >> >>> -6th St 
>> >> >>> -Liberty at William Penn 
>> >> >>> -Liberty at 11th 
>> >> >>> -Centre and Craig 
>> >> >>> -Chestnut by the Heinz Plant 
>> >> >>> -Cedar near East Ohio 
>> >> >>> -Penn Circle South at S Beatty 
>> >> >>> -Chartiers Ave, McKees Rocks 
>> >> >>> -Forbes Avenue, Oakland 
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>> There were a total of 15 White Towers in Pittsburgh, and that's 9 of 
>> >> them. 
>> >> >>> -- 
>> >> >>> Derrick 
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>> 
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>> >> >> 
>> >> >> -- 
>> >> >> Herb Brannon 
>> >> >> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park 
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>> >> > -- 
>> >> > Herb Brannon 
>> >> > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park 
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>> >> Derrick 
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>> > Herb Brannon 
>> > In Cuyahoga Valley National Park 
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>> -- 
>> Derrick 
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> -- 
> Herb Brannon 
> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park 
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