[PRCo] Re: West Carson Street

[Herb Brannon]

Here's a scan of the front cover of Vol 2. It too has two cover letters.
One is signed by Wade G Fox, Publications Supervisor and the other signed
by Robert Kochanowski, Acting Study Director. The "Survey Office" was
located at 14 Wood Street and their telephone number was EXpress 1-3850. My
vol 2 has several maps with private right of way streetcar lines and what
are termed "rapid transit" lines running jointly and also on individual.
Could this be the Vol 2 referred to in Vol 1 or is this some different
study?
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 16:12, robert netzlof <wb3iqe at rocketmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > Somewhere I saw an article that said PRC acknowledged to (I believe) the
> > Allegheny Conference in 1949 that they would not be operating streetcars
> > over the new bridge.  I fervently wish I could find the reference,
> because
> > it would demonstrate that the later commotion about replacing
> money-losing
> > West End trolley routes with buses was a bunch of crocodile tears
> designed
> > to get someone else to pay for the buses and let PRC of easy on the
> paving
> > obligations.
>
> A short time later Derrick said:
>
> If they did, I bet it would be in here:
> Mass transportation study of Pittsburgh and Allegheny County, Volume 1
>
> http://books.google.com/books?id=xWpAAAAAIAAJ&q=%22allegheny+conference%22+%22point+bridge%22+1949&dq=%22allegheny+conference%22+%22point+bridge%22+1949&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QqdPT_epOsiJsQKI68XADg&ved=0CEYQ6AEwAQ
>
> Now I say:
>
> I got a copy of the 1949 report* from the Penn State library. The only
> thing I found in it regarding the new bridge at the point was in a
> discussion of through routing to reduce or eliminate street car loops in
> the Triangle. Page 35 has:
>
> "Routes coming over Point Bridge would be combined with routes along Penn
> and Liberty Avenue. This combination requires no looping whatsoever in
> crossing the Triangle. More than 900 passengers or almost 11 per cent of
> all passengers originating on routes that cross Point Bridge would be
> potential users of this route combination during the morning period.
>
> "Discussions are now taking place with a view to toward substituting buses
> for street cars on the new bridge that will replace the present Point
> Bridge. If that takes place, then this recommendation would have to be
> modified."
>
> * The report I got may not be the report y'ns had in mind. This one has
> two cover letters. One, dated Sept. 22, 1949, signed by Phillip Robinson,
> says that the report is:
>
> "the results of the study of mass transportation in Pittsburgh and
> Allegheny County which has been made for your three agencies [Allegheny
> Conf. on Community Devel., Pittsburgh Regional Planning Assoc.,
> Pennsylvania Economy League]...".
>
> The other letter, dated Aug. 27, 1951 says:
>
> "...results of the study are set forth in two reports; one completed in
> September 1949, jointly sponsored by [list of agencies as above] ... the
> First Phase Study was not released publicly. The Second Phase Study has
> been substantially completed and will be released when printed."
>
> I conclude that what I have is only the first of the two reports. It was
> the only such report I could find in the Pattee/Paterno Library's catalog.
>
> Bob Netzlof a/k/a Sweet Old Bob
>
>


-- 
Herb Brannon
In Cuyahoga Valley National Park



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