[PRCo] Re: PRCo Photo Wiki?

Fred Schneider fwschneider at comcast.net
Fri May 25 14:22:25 EDT 2012


Phillip:

There is an old line that a professional could do much more with a Brownie than any rank amateur with a Speed Graphic.  

Law applies to everyone regardless of who wants the picture posted for their pleasure.

Fred


On May 25, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:

> Mr.Keener,
> 
> 
> Your comment is interesting and most likely harmonizes with
> copyright law.  But spin is still spin isn't it.  One can hardly
> equate point and click with artistic expression that starts
> totally from scratch.  Brownie cameras of yore were point
> and click; it is not unique to the digital world.  One can ask:
> Why does what I do in public become the private property
> of another individual simply because he points and clicks?
> Why do I lose my rights to privacy while he gains rights
> of privacy / copyright which includes me?  One 'generally'
> cannot contest being photographed in public.  The same
> photo then becomes private copyright property of another
> doesn't it.  What are we missing here?  A parallel observation:
> What is legal in one country is sometimes illegal in another
> country isn't it.  We don't need to leave the country for this
> experience do we.  Some states in the U.S.A. forbid what other
> states allow.  Is this 'equality' of law which is part of our
> Constitution?  Isn't this the "United" States?  This sounds more
> divisive doesn't it.
> 
> 
> Just some thoughts.  With 100-people it is most likely 1,000-more
> conflicting thoughts can be expressed isn't it.  We shall most likely
> hear some won't we.
> 
> 
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
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> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jim Keener <jimktrains at gmail.com>
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org 
>> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 9:31 AM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRCo Photo Wiki?
>> 
>> That's arguably an unfair way to look at it. A photograph is as
>> much art as a painting. His vision and knowledge and time went into it.
>> He has every right to not show just anyone his work.
>> 
>> My only argument is that the internet is not public domain. 
>> Copyright exists on it, though it does become harder to enforce and
>> easier to copy.
>> 
>> Jim
>> -- 
>> 
>> Boris Cefer <westinghouse at iol.cz> wrote:
>> 
>> That is everyone's decision, however...
>> 
>> All that belongs to the public before you steal it by your camera for 
>> yourself should belong to the public again and the internet is the most 
>> appropriate place to display it.
>> 
>> No discussion!
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
>> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 4:45 PM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: PRCo Photo Wiki?
>> 
>> The one reason I have never posted anything valuable on the internet is 
>> simply that it will forever be lost to me. It becomes public domain. In 
>> otherwords, not interested.
>> 
> 





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