[PRCo] Re: Assorted Photos Off The 'Net
Edward H. Lybarger
trams2 at comcast.net
Wed Nov 14 08:54:12 EST 2012
The photo looking up Diamond Street is the late Clyde Hare's image. He came
to Pittsburgh around 1953 to photograph J&L Steel for that company, stayed
around and of course took lots of other pictures. This photo is clearly one
of his earlier efforts, since the Wabash Building came down in 1954 (I
recall watching some of that happen).
Most of Diamond Street was renamed Forbes Avenue for the 1958 Bicentennial,
as was Forbes Street. One block of Diamond remains between Forbes and Fifth
Avenues, under the Crosstown Boulevard.
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Subject: [PRCo] Re: Assorted Photos Off The 'Net
The real gem is the first one . the picture of the rear of the 4000 (Brill
1909) on one of the Highland Park lines probably around 1920. I printed it
but I still cannot read the street name behind the tree above the man. I
drove my Google-Mobile over all the logical streets and I cannot locate
those buildings . i.e. Highland, Negley, Centre, lower Fifth, lower Forbes.
I know the caption reads 5th Avenue but South Highland ran via Forbes so my
first instinct was to try all sorts of combinations. Nothing works today
because too many buildings have been torn down. I would relish having a 110
year old geezer tell me, "I know where it is . I lived there."
Unfortunately a lot of the heart of East Liberty was been demolished by
Urban Ruinall. Lower Forbes was wiped out by the Crosstown Expressway and
the Boulevard of the Allies. Many of the homes on very lower Herron Hill
disappeared in the Civic Arena project. Since then the next mile has had
many of the old homes r!
eplaced by newer ones. And farther out Centre more than half the
buildings simply disappeared .looks like Euclid Avenue in Cleveland. The
hill does feel right for lower Forbes or lower 5th, however; it's just that
the buildings are there today.
And guys, how would you like to carry that suitcase (sitting on the curb)
filled with glass plate holders when you go out to take pictures? And the
tripod? And a 4x5 or 8x10 view camera and several lenses and lensboards? A
dozen years ago I bought a 4x5 view camera and then built a wooden case to
hold it and all the trappings . weighs a ton. I think by the time I was
done it had cost me close to $100 for every picture I took before I gave up
the experiment. My wife is using the case as a table to hold a lamp in the
back bedroom. And if I wanted to use it, where the hell would I get fil-em
today? Kodak quit making all the good stuff like TriX and
SuperpanchroPress B and PlusX.
The second one is the Brookline loop.
The third would be Tunnel Yard during the Deiselheimer Era. For those who
don't know that moniker, there were a number of Electric Railroaders
Association members who applied it to Harold G because he worked for a bus
company.
The fourth looks up Diamond Alley from Liberty. You don't get it? Well
they changed the name from Diamond Alley to Diamond St. to Forbes Avenue but
the city fathers never actually widened that street. The building on the
right with the Corinthian Columns is the Wabash Terminal. Judging by the
automobiles and the presence of a 1700, its after the fire that destroyed
the trainshed and before the redevelopment in the Point.
And the last one was taken when route 56 was the only carline left in
McKeesport. McKeesport was one of the worst hurt of the suburban towns
first because the United Steel Workers employes got wages high enough to get
out of that smog infested valley and move to the suburbs and drive to work
in their new cars, and then because those higher wages were more than
foreign steel workers were paying, steel simply collapsed. McKeesport's
population peaked in1940at 55,355. In 1930, with a cluster of West Penn and
Pittsburgh Railways carlines, it had almost 55,000 people. But then after
the war people began to leave for the suburbs. The 2010 census showed only
17,731 left . it had dropped 18% since 2000. Wikipedia has a fairly decent
description of the town and they actually included the last 160 years of
population data in one of the most recent changes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McKeesport,_Pennsylvania
On Nov 12, 2012, at 11:56 PM, Herb Brannon wrote:
> If anyone has anything to add concerning location, photographer, etc.,
> have at it. These I found during random searches of the Internet. I
> don't remember these being shown before on The List, however, they may
have been.
> --
> Herb Brannon
> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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