[PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
Herb Brannon
hrbran at cavtel.net
Tue Sep 25 19:23:56 EDT 2012
Who is Scott Beveridge? Is he noted for trick photos? In my opinion, if he
or anyone else is posting items like this as true historical photos, in a
public forum such as the Internet, they are doing a great disservice to
everyone in a misguided effort to make a name for themselves.
Also since both Fred and Dwight have parroted almost everything I wrote in
this thread, well after I wrote it, I take it they agree with me !
I would, however, say it is a madeup photo, not a fantrip.
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
> I was able to get the photo larger yet and I do find the post-1920s
> aluminum railing does continue past the trolley. Other than that everything
> else I noted is as I noted it.
>
> Is that the Carlow University (formerly Carlow College) building up high
> in the distance above the "tipple" ? Looking real close I believe I see the
> Parkway East ramp to Forbes Avenue, albeit dimly, to the left of the sedan.
> Certainly that was not around in the 1920s.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
>
>> Also, maximize the size of the photo and look way in the background at
>> what appears to be a truck and automobile on the street. They both look to
>> be out of the 1940s or 50s.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like a "Photoshopped" pic to me.
>>>
>>> Look at the railing on the bridge the trolley is operating. That is the
>>> type of railing used from the late 1940s to the present day.
>>>
>>> Look at the streetlamp behind the trolley. It is definitely a Pittsburgh
>>> lamp of a more modern era.
>>>
>>> Look around both trolley poles of the streetcar. Close inspection shows
>>> the area where the original photo was blended in with what looks like
>>> Second Avenue track near downtown.
>>>
>>> What appears to be Brady St Bridge is in the background.
>>>
>>> Looks fake to me.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:43 AM, John Swindler <j_swindler at hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't see a motorman??????? Could this be a staged photo - like
>>>> maybe fantrip?????? Disregarding the destination signs, the first
>>>> impression was Second Ave. near Tenth St. bridge. But I have no faith in
>>>> this first impression. So back to Charleroi area. John
>>>> > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 05:59:03 -0700
>>>> > From: pcc_sr at yahoo.com
>>>> > Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
>>>> > To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
>>>> >
>>>> > Mr.Brashear,
>>>> >
>>>> > This looks like a case for Detective Lybarger doesn't it. We know
>>>> > the only place the Charleroi line crossed the Monongahela is downtown
>>>> > Pittsburgh isn't it. Thus the car is apparently heading south rather
>>>> > than north.
>>>> >
>>>> > Is it near Monongahela City? A bridge over a tributary is at Black
>>>> > Diamond Jct; double track leads to the Jct. But this does not seem
>>>> > to fit. It appears the car is on a bridge; the railing far side
>>>> suggests
>>>> > this. It also seems rather new construction; paving is new as well.
>>>> > The bridge across the Monongahela doesn't fit this location does it.
>>>> >
>>>> > It looks like a coal tipple or associated structure spans the highway
>>>> > in the distance; I can not determine what the trolley tracks do at
>>>> that
>>>> > distance. I am looking for evidence of single track.
>>>> >
>>>> > If the signs are correct this is a shuttle from Mongahela south and
>>>> > return not the Donora car. I can not detect the motorman at the
>>>> > controller. Did the car stop and pose for this picture? Do schedules
>>>> > reveal a run or train "86"?
>>>> >
>>>> > If the signs are correct this could be other places along the river
>>>> > from Mongahela south. Does it fit any other location?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Phil
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > >________________________________
>>>> > > From: Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com>
>>>> > >To: Pittsburgh Railways Group <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
>>>> > >Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:01 AM
>>>> > >Subject: [PRCo] wrong side of the river?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Was route 906 on the west shore of the river ever? I assumed it was
>>>> > >always on the other side, only, and
>>>> > >thus the caption is incorrect?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/scott_beveridge/8014098467/
>>>> > >
>>>> > >--
>>>> > >Derrick
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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