[PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?

Wed Sep 26 08:32:42 EDT 2012

There is something strange about the 'fog' or Pittsburgh's chewable air
isn't there.  The sky inside the triangle formed by the front trolley pole
and its rope is darker.  You pointed out something similar before Mr.Brannon.
Looking over the top of the car the air is darker immediately above the
car as well as up and over the rear trolley pole and down again.  Zooming
on the photo makes it appear as though taken through the back window
of an auto with hints of the skyline // tops of buildings visible.  Yet the
photo quality on zoom is poor.
On the other hand the car is positioned perfectly on the track; the old auto
also perfectly fits the scene.  I doubt the photo is manipulated in any manner.
We have all seen that Johnstown PCC photoshopped into South Hills Jct;
it appears as if the back end is on the OB track and front on the IB track
yet the trucks are still at distinctly wrong angles.  It would be too much
work for little if any benefit.

The photo is labeled isn't it: "Gary Strelick collection and Greater
Monessen
Historical Society."  Would anyone remember Mr.Strelick?
Here are other photos to Mr.Strelick's credit from Mr.Beveridge:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=42086945@N00&q=Gary%20Strelick

I searched google for "Mr.Strelick."  It is very interesting the second
listing is for one person in Charleroi, over 65:
http://www.whitepages.com/name/Gary-Strelick/Pennsylvania

https://www.google.com/search?q=Gary+Strelick&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

This page says he is "74:"
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Pennsylvania/Belle-Vernon/gary-strelick/78432787.aspx

He also is or was President of a Model RR club in Belle Vernon.  Is this
a reason 4399 is listed as "Belle Vernon" on the photo caption?

Gary L Strelick
(724) 483-3967 
845 Prospect Ave
Charleroi, PA 15022-1956
http://www.whitepages.com/name/Gary-L-Strelick/Charleroi-PA/5h41sq9

Yesterday afternoon I followed Mr.Swindler's hint of Second Ave.  The
bridge strongly hints at Brady so I found pictures to confirm.  The Brady
search revealed plans for Blvd of Allies which fits the location well.  (It
is interesting the layout of Brady and Forbes over many decades.)  Car
4399 was a Glenwood car in its latter days wasn't it.  All this suggests
somewhere between Brady and Tenth St. bridge inbound doesn't it.

The following picture seems to capture the Brady bridge passing over
Second:
<http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;xc=1;g=imls;sort=dc_da;q1=second;size=20;c=hpicasc;c=hpicchatham;c=hpiccma;c=hpichswp;c=hpicmonroeville;c=hpicnpl;c=hpicoakmont;c=hpicphlf;c=hpicpitcairn;c=hpicpointpark;c=hpicusc;back=back1348615650;subview=detail;resnum=528;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=hpicasc;entryid=x-201003.096.ts;viewid=20120531-HPICASC-0096.TIF>
Note the tracks seem to be brick but street is asphalt.  If there is a
new bridge on Second behind the photographer it would justify asphalt paving
up to the rails.  Near the mills the whole street was block until the
Parkway construction forced renewing Second with tracks set in cement.

This is a very nice broadside of Brady:
<http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;xc=1;g=imls;sort=dc_da;q1=second;size=20;c=hpicasc;c=hpicchatham;c=hpiccma;c=hpichswp;c=hpicmonroeville;c=hpicnpl;c=hpicoakmont;c=hpicphlf;c=hpicpitcairn;c=hpicpointpark;c=hpicusc;back=back1348615650;subview=detail;resnum=527;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=hpicasc;entryid=x-201003.095.ts;viewid=20120531-HPICASC-0095.TIF>

The following is near the center of a Brady search; note the drawings for
Blvd of Allies and Brady and Forbes in 1921 before it became a full
double track through wye:
<http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=ic_all;type=boolean;xc=1;g=imls;view=thumbnail;sort=dc_da;start=61;c=hpicasc;c=hpicchatham;c=hpiccma;c=hpichswp;c=hpicmonroeville;c=hpicnpl;c=hpicoakmont;c=hpicphlf;c=hpicpitcairn;c=hpicpointpark;c=hpicusc;q1=Brady;back=back1348662802;size=20>

Phil

>________________________________
> From: Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net>
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 11:08 PM
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
> 
>It had to be manipulated in some way...........it looks like the trolley
>and auto were superimposed. Lots of items, if you look very closely, do not
>match up between the streetcar/auto and the background.
>
>
>On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From Webster; Works for the Washington Observer-Reporter.
>>
>> The photo would be a scan from one of the historical societies in the
>> valley.
>> I doubt it was photoshopped.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell
>> <pcc_sr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > He is a newspaper reporter in the Monongahela Valley, 'maybe' Charleroi.
>> > Mr.Lybarger mentioned this within the last couple weeks; he mentioned
>> > this previously some time back.
>> >
>> >
>> > Phil
>> >
>> >>________________________________
>> >> From: Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net>
>> >>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
>> >>Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:23 PM
>> >>Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
>> >>
>> >>Who is Scott Beveridge? Is he noted for trick photos? In my opinion, if
>> he
>> >>or anyone else is posting items like this as true historical photos, in a
>> >>public forum such as the Internet,  they are doing a great disservice to
>> >>everyone in a misguided effort to make a name for themselves.
>> --
>> Derrick
>