[PRCo] Fw: Re: wrong side of the river?
Dwight Long
dwightlong at verizon.net
Tue Sep 25 19:12:10 EDT 2012
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong at verizon.net>
To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
>
> Phil
>
> I think the whole shot is posed, auto and all, and is not on the Charleroi
> interurban line at all.
>
> I believe it is on 2nd avenue in the Hazelwood area just west of the Brady
> Street Bridge shown in the background.
>
> If you look closely you will see someone on the left hand side taking a
> phot. You will also see that the shot is much newer than what is
> suggested. There is a truck that is newer than the 20s and there is an
> auto that is much newer, although it is hard to make out cause it's so far
> in the bkgrd.
>
> If this were 4398 one could be sure what it is, but the puzzler is that it
> is 4399. I don't know the history of this car offhand. Likely this was a
> fantrip with signs put up for effect.
>
> The putative location would be on Lincoln Avenue in Charleroi with the
> North Charleroi-Monessen bridge in the bkgrd. However, nothing in the
> phot corresponds to Charleroi, but it does to 2nd Ave. The info with the
> phot also suggests that and I think that supposition is correct.
>
> Now, what was the occasion and when?
>
> Dwight
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phillip Clark Campbell" <pcc_sr at yahoo.com>
> To: <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:59 AM
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
>
>
>> Mr.Brashear,
>>
>> This looks like a case for Detective Lybarger doesn't it. We know
>> the only place the Charleroi line crossed the Monongahela is downtown
>> Pittsburgh isn't it. Thus the car is apparently heading south rather
>> than north.
>>
>> Is it near Monongahela City? A bridge over a tributary is at Black
>> Diamond Jct; double track leads to the Jct. But this does not seem
>> to fit. It appears the car is on a bridge; the railing far side suggests
>> this. It also seems rather new construction; paving is new as well.
>> The bridge across the Monongahela doesn't fit this location does it.
>>
>> It looks like a coal tipple or associated structure spans the highway
>> in the distance; I can not determine what the trolley tracks do at that
>> distance. I am looking for evidence of single track.
>>
>> If the signs are correct this is a shuttle from Mongahela south and
>> return not the Donora car. I can not detect the motorman at the
>> controller. Did the car stop and pose for this picture? Do schedules
>> reveal a run or train "86"?
>>
>> If the signs are correct this could be other places along the river
>> from Mongahela south. Does it fit any other location?
>>
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com>
>>>To: Pittsburgh Railways Group <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:01 AM
>>>Subject: [PRCo] wrong side of the river?
>>>
>>>Was route 906 on the west shore of the river ever? I assumed it was
>>>always on the other side, only, and
>>>thus the caption is incorrect?
>>>
>>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/scott_beveridge/8014098467/
>>>
>>>--
>>>Derrick
>>>
>>
>
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