[PRCo] Re: 4399 correct location

Phillip Clark Campbell pcc_sr at yahoo.com
Fri Sep 28 11:46:44 EDT 2012


Mr.Lybarger,
The current picture title is not the original is it.  The original stated this
car was "in Belle Vernon northbound" on Route 906(?)  A couple people
wrote to the poster after discussion here and he immediately changed
the title.

It also appears to be a double exposure--on enlarging a third trolley
pole and overhead hanger floating in space are quite visible.  This may
account for the strange dark sky within the triangle formed by the front
trolley pole and rope.


Do you know anything more about this charter?  It does not appear to
be an early museum charter.


Phil





>________________________________
> From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org 
>Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 8:55 AM
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
> 
>Sorry, I've been away and am not up to date on emails (nor have I begun to
>read the new book, copy of which I obtained Monday).  This photo is exactly
>where the caption says it is.  The car was operating in fantrip service on
>June 12, 1955.  The signs are absolutely meaningless here.
>
>Ed
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org
>[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org] On Behalf Of Phillip
>Clark Campbell
>Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:59 AM
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
>
>Mr.Brashear,
>
>This looks like a case for Detective Lybarger doesn't it.  We know the only
>place the Charleroi line crossed the Monongahela is downtown Pittsburgh
>isn't it.  Thus the car is apparently heading south rather than north.
>
>Is it near Monongahela City?  A bridge over a tributary is at Black Diamond
>Jct; double track leads to the Jct.  But this does not seem to fit.  It
>appears the car is on a bridge; the railing far side suggests this.  It also
>seems rather new construction; paving is new as well.
>The bridge across the Monongahela doesn't fit this location does it.
>
>It looks like a coal tipple or associated structure spans the highway in the
>distance; I can not determine what the trolley tracks do at that distance. 
>I am looking for evidence of single track.
>
>If the signs are correct this is a shuttle from Mongahela south and return
>not the Donora car.  I can not detect the motorman at the controller.  Did
>the car stop and pose for this picture?  Do schedules reveal a run or train
>"86"?
>
>If the signs are correct this could be other places along the river from
>Mongahela south.  Does it fit any other location?
>
>
>Phil
>
>>________________________________
>> From: Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com>
>>To: Pittsburgh Railways Group <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:01 AM
>>Subject: [PRCo] wrong side of the river?
>> 
>>Was route 906 on the west shore of the river ever? I assumed it was 
>>always on the other side, only, and thus the caption is incorrect?
>>
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/scott_beveridge/8014098467/
>>
>>--
>>Derrick
>



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