[PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?

Dwight Long dwightlong at verizon.net
Fri Sep 28 12:37:19 EDT 2012


Ed

Bravo!

This is one where the answer is right before one=E2=80=99s face, but too =
obscured to see it!  I was on that trip, and took extensive fots,  =
INCLUDING ONE AT THAT LOCATION, which is MIA, as are the negatives.  But =
to add support to your answer, here is a shot of 4398 on that trip but =
with a Finleyville top sign up=E2=80=94this taken on the Union Avenue =
spur on the North Side.

What threw me, and perhaps others, off is that the reproduction is so =
poor that we misread the car number, I as 4399 and someone else as 4333, =
both of which are reasonable interpretations of what can be seen in the =
posted fot.  I should have gone back into my records=E2=80=94the answer =
would have popped up from them.  Not the first time I=E2=80=99ve been =
led down the primrose path by one little errant =E2=80=9Cfact.=E2=80=9D

Thanks for your help in resolving this once and for all.  Sorry, Herb!



Dwight

From: Edward H. Lybarger=20
Sent: Friday, 28 September, 2012 08:55
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org=20
Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
Sorry, I've been away and am not up to date on emails (nor have I begun =
to
read the new book, copy of which I obtained Monday).  This photo is =
exactly
where the caption says it is.  The car was operating in fantrip service =
on
June 12, 1955.  The signs are absolutely meaningless here.

Ed

-----Original Message-----
From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org] On Behalf Of =
Phillip
Clark Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:59 AM
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?

Mr.Brashear,

This looks like a case for Detective Lybarger doesn't it.  We know the =
only
place the Charleroi line crossed the Monongahela is downtown Pittsburgh
isn't it.  Thus the car is apparently heading south rather than north.

Is it near Monongahela City?  A bridge over a tributary is at Black =
Diamond
Jct; double track leads to the Jct.  But this does not seem to fit.  It
appears the car is on a bridge; the railing far side suggests this.  It =
also
seems rather new construction; paving is new as well.
The bridge across the Monongahela doesn't fit this location does it.

It looks like a coal tipple or associated structure spans the highway in =
the
distance; I can not determine what the trolley tracks do at that =
distance.=20
I am looking for evidence of single track.

If the signs are correct this is a shuttle from Mongahela south and =
return
not the Donora car.  I can not detect the motorman at the controller.  =
Did
the car stop and pose for this picture?  Do schedules reveal a run or =
train
"86"?

If the signs are correct this could be other places along the river from
Mongahela south.  Does it fit any other location?


Phil






>________________________________
> From: Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com>
>To: Pittsburgh Railways Group <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:01 AM
>Subject: [PRCo] wrong side of the river?
>=20
>Was route 906 on the west shore of the river ever? I assumed it was=20
>always on the other side, only, and thus the caption is incorrect?
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/scott_beveridge/8014098467/
>
>--
>Derrick
>






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