[PRCo] Re: 4399 correct location

[Dwight Long]

Phil

Ed is correct, although at the time the organization was known as the Pittsburgh Electric Railway Club.  The museum as it now exists was then about a year and a third of age!  Perhaps surprisingly, I was a bit younger too at the time, although my name has not changed.

The trip originated at Glenwood CH and proceeded into Pgh on 2nd Avenue (past the “mystery” fot location).  It then went via Rt. 32 to the Point area after a brief side trip to the foot of the Castle Shannon Incline (I don’t know if via the West End Circle or directly onto the Point Bridge)  and from there to Drake loop, including a move onto the stub of the interurban line at Drake-Ruthfred station.  From there it traveled to Library (Simmons) thence back to Castle Shannon and 38A to Clearview loop.  Not sure from my notes whether we used the 42 route or stayed on 38 to get back to the Triangle, but from there we went to the North Side, where the picture I tried to send but which Ecartis ate was taken.  From the Union Avenue spur we went up Rt. 5, then back to the Triangle and out Rt. 21 to its outer end, then via Rt. 8 to Keating CH and on via Rt 10 and 15 to Bellevue, where we diverged onto the 13 line for a run to Emsworth loop.  From thence it was back to the Triangle and presumably returning to Glenwood, although my notes do not reflect the latter.  It is likely I alit “Dawntawn” and returned to my home in Beaver via the P&LE rather than riding back out to Glenwood and back to the P&LE station—but that part of the trip is lost in the fog of memory.

Hope this answers your inquiry, and if I can provide any further info, be glad to try.

Dwight

From: Phillip Clark Campbell 
Sent: Friday, 28 September, 2012 11:46
To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org 
Subject: [PRCo] Re: 4399 correct location
Mr.Lybarger,
The current picture title is not the original is it.  The original stated this
car was "in Belle Vernon northbound" on Route 906(?)  A couple people
wrote to the poster after discussion here and he immediately changed
the title.

It also appears to be a double exposure--on enlarging a third trolley
pole and overhead hanger floating in space are quite visible.  This may
account for the strange dark sky within the triangle formed by the front
trolley pole and rope.


Do you know anything more about this charter?  It does not appear to
be an early museum charter.


Phil





>________________________________
> From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org 
>Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 8:55 AM
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
> 
>Sorry, I've been away and am not up to date on emails (nor have I begun to
>read the new book, copy of which I obtained Monday).  This photo is exactly
>where the caption says it is.  The car was operating in fantrip service on
>June 12, 1955.  The signs are absolutely meaningless here.
>
>Ed
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org
>[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org] On Behalf Of Phillip
>Clark Campbell
>Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:59 AM
>To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
>Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
>
>Mr.Brashear,
>
>This looks like a case for Detective Lybarger doesn't it.  We know the only
>place the Charleroi line crossed the Monongahela is downtown Pittsburgh
>isn't it.  Thus the car is apparently heading south rather than north.
>
>Is it near Monongahela City?  A bridge over a tributary is at Black Diamond
>Jct; double track leads to the Jct.  But this does not seem to fit.  It
>appears the car is on a bridge; the railing far side suggests this.  It also
>seems rather new construction; paving is new as well.
>The bridge across the Monongahela doesn't fit this location does it.
>
>It looks like a coal tipple or associated structure spans the highway in the
>distance; I can not determine what the trolley tracks do at that distance. 
>I am looking for evidence of single track.
>
>If the signs are correct this is a shuttle from Mongahela south and return
>not the Donora car.  I can not detect the motorman at the controller.  Did
>the car stop and pose for this picture?  Do schedules reveal a run or train
>"86"?
>
>If the signs are correct this could be other places along the river from
>Mongahela south.  Does it fit any other location?
>
>
>Phil
>
>>________________________________
>> From: Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com>
>>To: Pittsburgh Railways Group <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:01 AM
>>Subject: [PRCo] wrong side of the river?
>> 
>>Was route 906 on the west shore of the river ever? I assumed it was 
>>always on the other side, only, and thus the caption is incorrect?
>>
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/scott_beveridge/8014098467/
>>
>>--
>>Derrick
>