[PRCo] Re: 4399 correct location

[Fred Schneider]

Ed and I just had a telephone discussion about the picture.   The automobile may be George Tucker's father's 1924 or 1925 Chrysler, which matches photos in a car book I have open in front of me.  Tucker had several cars and gave his own Model T Ford to PTM … it rests today in the Trolley Display Building.   


On Sep 28, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote:

> Mr.Lybarger,
> The current picture title is not the original is it.  The original stated this
> car was "in Belle Vernon northbound" on Route 906(?)  A couple people
> wrote to the poster after discussion here and he immediately changed
> the title.
> 
> It also appears to be a double exposure--on enlarging a third trolley
> pole and overhead hanger floating in space are quite visible.  This may
> account for the strange dark sky within the triangle formed by the front
> trolley pole and rope.
> 
> 
> Do you know anything more about this charter?  It does not appear to
> be an early museum charter.
> 
> 
> Phil
> 
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net>
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org 
>> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 8:55 AM
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
>> 
>> Sorry, I've been away and am not up to date on emails (nor have I begun to
>> read the new book, copy of which I obtained Monday).  This photo is exactly
>> where the caption says it is.  The car was operating in fantrip service on
>> June 12, 1955.  The signs are absolutely meaningless here.
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org
>> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org] On Behalf Of Phillip
>> Clark Campbell
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:59 AM
>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
>> Subject: [PRCo] Re: wrong side of the river?
>> 
>> Mr.Brashear,
>> 
>> This looks like a case for Detective Lybarger doesn't it.  We know the only
>> place the Charleroi line crossed the Monongahela is downtown Pittsburgh
>> isn't it.  Thus the car is apparently heading south rather than north.
>> 
>> Is it near Monongahela City?  A bridge over a tributary is at Black Diamond
>> Jct; double track leads to the Jct.  But this does not seem to fit.  It
>> appears the car is on a bridge; the railing far side suggests this.  It also
>> seems rather new construction; paving is new as well.
>> The bridge across the Monongahela doesn't fit this location does it.
>> 
>> It looks like a coal tipple or associated structure spans the highway in the
>> distance; I can not determine what the trolley tracks do at that distance. 
>> I am looking for evidence of single track.
>> 
>> If the signs are correct this is a shuttle from Mongahela south and return
>> not the Donora car.  I can not detect the motorman at the controller.  Did
>> the car stop and pose for this picture?  Do schedules reveal a run or train
>> "86"?
>> 
>> If the signs are correct this could be other places along the river from
>> Mongahela south.  Does it fit any other location?
>> 
>> 
>> Phil
>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com>
>>> To: Pittsburgh Railways Group <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:01 AM
>>> Subject: [PRCo] wrong side of the river?
>>> 
>>> Was route 906 on the west shore of the river ever? I assumed it was 
>>> always on the other side, only, and thus the caption is incorrect?
>>> 
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/scott_beveridge/8014098467/
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Derrick
>> 
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