[PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of oldandabandonedbuildings in Western Pa.

Mon Apr 8 17:19:13 EDT 2013

Bob

Thanks for that clarification.

I did not ride any trip on 6/14 on that day. Went right to the Brass Rail 
upon return of the last 21 trip, then split for Hoosierland.

Dwight
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at comcast.net>
To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" 
<pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of 
oldandabandonedbuildings in Western Pa.

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> Dwight,
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> "The second half of the last trolley day" referred to the last regularly 
> scheduled trip on 6/14-Avalon which occured immediately following the last 
> regularly scheduled trip on 21-Fineview..
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>
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> The last regular service day for 21 and 14/6 was Saturday, April 30, 1966. 
> The last car on 21 arrived back downtown from Fineview a little before 
> Midnight, and then went to Tunnel CH. A few minutes later the last regular 
> service car on 14/6 left downtown for Avalon, and returned back downtown 
> around 2am on Sunday, May 1.
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>
>
> I was on the last regular service trips on both 21 and 6/14. I 've heard 
> that there was a charter that ran on Finview after the last regular 
> service trip there, but I don't know when that occured . I'm not sure if 
> there was also an after-service charter on 6/14.
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>
>
> Bob
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong at verizon.net>
> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" 
> <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 2:32:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old 
> andabandonedbuildings in Western Pa.
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>
> Bob
>
> Not sure to what you refer. I was on the last trip of Rt. 21 and then a 
> few
> of us retired to a Brass Rail in the Triangle (on Liberty or Penn??) to 
> cry
> in our beer over the loss. What was the "last trolley day?" Some
> enthusiast tour?
>
> I'm sending this from my portable and don't have my records at hand or 
> could
> tell you the exact date. It was in 1966 for sure.
>
> Dwight
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at comcast.net>
> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"
> <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 1:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old
> andabandonedbuildings in Western Pa.
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>> Dwight,
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>> There was a Brass Rail on E. Ohio St. Did you skip the se cond half of 
>> the
>> "last trolley day" on 4/3 0/66?
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>>
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>> That night I rode the last 21-Fine view car out to Fineview and back to
>> downtown, then caught the last 6/14 trolley and rode out to Avalon and
>> back. I took the attached photo as a group of fans on Penn Ave. made the
>> dash to board 1799.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>
>>
>> From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong at verizon.net>
>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"
>> <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
>> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 11:43:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and
>> abandonedbuildings in Western Pa.
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> My last (somewhat faint) memory of the Brass Rail is consuming mass
>> quantities of beer in one of their outlets after I had ridden the last
>> ever Rt. 21 Fineview car,
>>
>> Dwight
>>
>> From: Bob Rathke
>> Sent: Monday, 08 April, 2013 12:23
>> To: Western PA Trolley discussion
>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and
>> abandonedbuildings in Western Pa.
>>
>>
>> Fred,
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>> While you're remembering Fifth and Liberty Avenues, don't forget Frank &
>> Seder, Spear and May Stern department/furniture stores. Also 5&10's G.C.
>> Murphy and Grants; the Brass Rail and Bards (similar to Isaly's, but Bard
>> stores were in the neighborhoods, not downtown ).
>>
>>
>>
>> My grandmother worked at Rosenbaums before she was married. The Rosenbaum
>> building was a solid structure , and it took months to dem olish it 
>> before
>> they could start building the parking garage that's on the site now. My
>> grandfather worked at Boggs & Buhl and was an office boy for R.H. Boggs,
>> but his family encouraged him to leave the store and learn a trade. The
>> R.H. Boggs home on the Mexican War Streets is now a B&B.
>>
>>
>>
>> My paternal great grandfather was fire engineer at the City of Allegheny
>> fire station No. 2 on Concord St. from 1868 to the early 1900's (see
>> attached photo). I also have a photo of him working in Johnstown after 
>> the
>> 1889 flood (I assume that Allegheny sent fireman to Johnstown to help
>> out). And I have copies of his Civil War records and pension.
>>
>>
>>
>> About the Brass Rail: the restaurants had a large (probably 5 'X10 ') 
>> copy
>> of a painting behi nd the bar. The painting depicted a 1930-style bus, 
>> but
>> the bus was five stories tall and looked like a cruise ship on wheels. 
>> The
>> title of the painting was, "A bus salesman's dream in 1960". I wonder if
>> that painting survived the restaurants.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>
>>
>> From: "Fred Schneider" <fwschneider at comcast.net>
>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"
>> <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
>> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 10:43:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Facebook page for posting photos of old and abandoned
>> buildings in Western Pa.
>>
>> You know you are old, Bob, when someone asks "What's a McCrorys?" Think 
>> of
>> all those old store names that are no longer there. I will confine myself
>> to western Pennsylvania … Woolworths, Gimbels, Kaufmans, Joseph Horne,
>> Rosenbaums, Boggs and Buhl, Isalys.
>>
>> Yup…. And you now have to be in your 40s to understand what communism was
>> like in eastern Europe. In a way, I guess I am rather glad that I
>> vacationed in East Germany before the wall came down and saw it. I guess,
>> as ugly as history can be, I guess it was also good for me that I
>> experienced the segregated southern states … black and white drinking
>> fountains, toilets, restaurants, etc.
>>
>> Now, how the hell do I explain to my granddaughter and her husband, who 
>> is
>> of African descent, what it would have been like living in this country 
>> 60
>> or more years ago?
>>
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 1:19 PM, Bob Rathke wrote:
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>>> Here's a Facebook page containing photos of old and abondoned structures
>>> in Western Pa. It contains a few rail photos. I've posted some of my
>>> 1956-82 photos in the section for, "Recent posts by others".
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>>> See:
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>>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Abandoned-Old-Interesting-Places-Western-PA/237114536307967?sk=photos#!/pages/Abandoned-Old-Interesting-Places-Western-PA/237114536307967
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