[PRCo] Stumble Upon Photos (Section 2)

Tue Aug 13 16:33:02 EDT 2013

Bob

That all sounds much more in line with my recollections.

Much later, in the early 2000s, I saw one of the Daylight Speedliner RDCs up 
at Lincoln, N.H., at the shops of the Hobo Railroad.  Don't know who owned 
it then or what disposition was made of it.  It may have gone into service 
on the Hobo--they had a few RDCs.

Dwight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [PRCo] Stumble Upon Photos (Section 2)

> Dwight,
>
> You're correct about the date on the photo I posted - it was taken in 
> 1962, not 1965. According to Harry Stegmaier's book, "B&O Passenger 
> Service, Vol. 2", the Daylight Speedliner (21 and 22) switched from the 
> P&LE to the B&O station on 10/20/61. The switch was made to reduce 
> terminal costs at the P&LE station, and also to allow the Daylight 
> Speedliner equipment to operate as two Pttsburgh commuter trains during 
> their layover in the B&O station. After train 21 arrived in Pittsburgh 
> from Baltmore, its equipment made a round trip to Versailles, and the next 
> morning made another round trip to Versailles before leaving Pittsburgh 
> for Baltimore as train 22. This pattern continued until the last day for 
> trains 21-22 on 1/21/63. After that, the Daylight Speedliner equipment 
> continued to operate in B&O (later MARC) commuter service between 
> Baltimore, D.C. and Brunswick until early 1993.
>
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong at verizon.net>
> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" 
> <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:28:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Stumble Upon Photos (Section 2)
>
>
> Bob
>
> Nice shot of that equipment, but if it were taken in 1965 it was the 
> FORMER
> Daylight Speedliner 's equipment. The Speedliner came off, AIR, in January
> 1963 (I'm not where my records are and am going from memory). I rode the
> last EB and WB runs between Pgh and Connellsville. I think the switchover
> from P&LE to B&O stations came either in late 1959 or early 60s, as I have
> shot of the Speedliner in the P&LE station in the summer of 1959.
>
> Dwight
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bob Rathke" <bobrathke at comcast.net>
> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"
> <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Stumble Upon Photos (Section 2)
>
>
>> Dwight,
>>
>> Photo 822 is indeed the B&O Daylight Speedliner train 22, or possibly 
>> it's
>> use as a Pittsburgh-McKeesport commuter train during layovers between its
>> Pittsburgh-Baltimore runs. In the mid-1960's, the B&O Daylight Speedliner
>> train moved from the P&LE station to the B&O station, and from late
>> afternoon to early the next morning the layover Daylight Speedliner
>> equipment (led by diner/combine units 1960 or 1961, but without the 
>> dining
>> service) was used on the local commuter trains.
>>
>> Attached is a photo I took of the Daylight Speedliner (led by 1960) in 
>> the
>> B&O station on10/6/65 when its equipment was being used for a
>> Pittsburgh-McKeesport train.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>
>> From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong at verizon.net>
>> To: "Western PA Trolley discussion"
>> <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:10:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Stumble Upon Photos (Section 2)
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>> 822/5 is NOT commuter train. It is the Daylight Speedliner, a through
>> train Pgh to Baltimore, Train #22. One of the RDCs had a dinette/bar
>> section.
>>
>> 1450 was on PERC day after abandonment trip 21 September 1958.
>>
>> Dwight
>>
>> From: John Swindler
>> Sent: Friday, 09 August, 2013 23:20
>> To: Western PA Trolley discussion
>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Stumble Upon Photos (Section 2)
>>
>>
>> That first one might not be Pittsburgh.
>>
>> 817/1 is Drake Loop construction
>>
>> 818/2 S. Hills Jct. Looks like the Ollie Miller photo.
>>
>> 819 looks like the Vigrass pix at S. Hills Jct.
>>
>> 820/3 is at Castle Shannon. And assume everyone figures out that 1450 is
>> at Kennywood.
>>
>> 822/5 is B&O commuter train at Pgh station on Grant St. Wonder if this
>> came from PAT files?
>>
>> First Ave.
>>
>> 824/7 is Herron Hill car barn
>>
>> 825 is Federal St. north side - PRR bridge in background. Think I've seen
>> this on Pgh digital history site.
>>
>> 826 - west view park to right.
>>
>> Hmmm. And from a govt. agency at that.
>>
>>
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>>> Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 21:45:28 -0400
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