[PRCo] Re: Safety Island Length

[Phillip Clark Campbell]

There is much negotiation which takes place on these projects Mr.Barry.  If the railway itself promotes such change then they are responsible for
funding.  If the railway is forced into making changes then through
negotiation those responsible for the changes fund moving the railway
in some manner.

West End lines were only in downtown very briefly werent they, this both
before and after reroute for 'improvement.'  This location lacked store
fronts which would demand space for parking thus a longer island is
possible and even necessary for the small downtown loop.  More people
board at one stop.  I do not recall islands for West End before the
downtown reroute.  Grant had islands for most but not all stops;
4th & 7th on Grant for the interurbans did not.  Liberty had some
islands on the south / east side but the other direction, again
interurbans, did not.  Third, 4th, Diamond, 5th and 6th did not have
islands did they.

There was an island on Washington Rd in Mt.Lebanon that was only
long enough to accommodate both sets of doors, not the whole car.
They were built to meet demand and this subject to local codes and
demands of business.  Business leaders sometimes have power over
transit even to this day.


Phil



--- On Fri, 1/11/13, Barry, Matthew R <mrb190 at pitt.edu> wrote:

> From: Barry, Matthew R <mrb190 at pitt.edu>
> Subject: [PRCo] Re: Safety Island Length
> To: "pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org" <pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org>
> Date: Friday, January 11, 2013, 1:35 PM
> Wow -those West-Enders had quite a
> long safety island.
> My hunch is that this is one of the few in the city, if the
> only one?     And built in the 1950's at
> that, I would think, after the renovation of the Point.
> 
> I know we beat the West End Lines discussion to a pulp in
> the past, but it still amazes me how much was done/spent on
> new trackage in that area during the 50s, only to have the
> lines be discontinued in June 1959.
> 
> matt
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org
> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounce at lists.dementix.org]
> On Behalf Of Lattner, Raymond
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 11:39 AM
> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
> Subject: [PRCo] Safety Island Length
> 
> Hello.  Was looking at this picture and started
> wondering about safety island length. Looks like this island
> could handle at least 3 cars.
> Anybody know if a 4 car island existed?
> Also any information on island locations which had a three
> or  four car capacity?
> Thanks
> 
> Ray
> 
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