[PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types Like Ed)

Edward H. Lybarger ehlybarger at yahoo.com
Mon Jan 28 14:39:35 EST 2013 

My guess is two.  It's quarterly now, but I don't file mine here and can't
say with any certainty.  Mine go to the library immediately upon receipt.

-----Original Message-----
From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org
[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of Herb
Brannon
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:22 PM
To: Western PA Trolley discussion
Subject: Re: [PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types Like Ed)

Just called PTM. My membership was in the computer, however, someone at PTM
had checked the "no" box pertaining to if I did or did not want to receive
Trolley Fare. So, how many "Trolley Fare's" am I owed since October 1st ?

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:

> Then that means that I am not on the mailing list for some reason. 
> I'll call them right now.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Derrick Brashear
<shadow at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> my trolley fare arrived like 6-8 days ago.
>>
>> Derrick
>>
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2013, at 11:52, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Dennis,
>> > I should be at PTM as many days as I feel like this coming season. 
>> > I
>> should
>> > be moved to Pittsburgh by then. I look forward to you being my
>> instructor
>> > for PTM Operator Training  ;-)
>> >
>> > Ed,
>> > These days it's good to avoid "management involvement" at a lot of
>> places.
>> > All that's heard is "mo money, mo money, mo money, and mo money". 
>> > The
>> thing
>> > to remember is that "greed" is one of the "seven deadly ones". The
>> shining
>> > example of this is the so-called "Lakeshore Electric Railway" (nee
>> Columbia
>> > Park operation). The "high dollar crowd" who were the overseers of 
>> > that operation got their "pocket change" to see them through the 
>> > recession/depression. Now, however, nothing remains of what could 
>> > have
>> been
>> > something good. I hope they all had a good vacation with that money.
>> >
>> > As long as the subject is PTM, since October, 2012 has PTM issued 
>> > any "Trolley Fare" magazines or any other mailings to members?
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Edward H. Lybarger <
>> ehlybarger at yahoo.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have not been getting list mail for some time now, and finally 
>> >> asked Derrick to change my address to another email account that I 
>> >> keep for
>> such
>> >> occurrences.  So far, it's working!
>> >>
>> >> Herb, this is the first time I've seen this policy (I'm 
>> >> deliberately avoiding any management involvement, except for 
>> >> Archives, at PTM these days), but it's important to note that it 
>> >> applies mostly to commercial
>> uses
>> >> of the images.  The other is a fee-raising thing (we're getting 
>> >> pretty mercenary in this department) for those whose egos demand 
>> >> exclusive
>> use of
>> >> a
>> >> car on which they can be photographed.  So as long as you're not
>> selling
>> >> the
>> >> photos, there's no restriction on member photography.
>> >>
>> >> Ed
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org
>> >> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On 
>> >> Behalf
>> Of DF
>> >> Cramer
>> >> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:21 AM
>> >> To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types 
>> >> Like Ed)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Just to clarify: the fee is for specific events. Come down this 
>> >> spring
>> and
>> >> take pictures to your hearts content. Our service during the 
>> >> Washington County Fair has become a traction fan holiday.
>> >>
>> >> Dennis F. Cramer
>> >> http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/
>> >>
>> >>> From: hrbran at cavtel.net
>> >>> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:15:54 -0500
>> >>> To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
>> >>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types 
>> >>> Like
>> >>> Ed)
>> >>>
>> >>> That's good to know. I was becoming concerned when I noticed
>> >> "substantial"
>> >>> increases in fees for all services at PTM then saw the $100 
>> >>> permit required for taking photos.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:03 AM, DF Cramer
>> >> <alto_trombone at hotmail.com>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Herb,
>> >>>> Read the entire policy------
>> >>>> Photo Sessions at Pennsylvania Trolley Museum
>> >>>>
>> >>>> CHOOSE YOUR FAVORITE VINTAGE STREETCAR - Choose from any of our 
>> >>>> operational streetcars for stunning interior and exterior photo
>> shots.
>> >>>> Favorite trolley backdrops are the beautiful Streetcar Named 
>> >>>> Desire, our Rio de Janeiro Open Car, and the meticulously 
>> >>>> restored 1917 Pittsburgh Car
>> >>>> 4398 among many others. Your streetcar photo session will be 
>> >>>> hosted by a uniformed streetcar operator from the Pennsylvania 
>> >>>> Trolley
>> Museum.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Streetcar Photo Session - $100 per Hour Private use of a vintage 
>> >>>> streetcar with motorman for photo session
>> >>>> Available: April through December by appointment
>> >>>>
>> >>>> PHOTOGRAPHY POLICY
>> >>>> Pennsylvania Trolley Museum encourages photography and the use 
>> >>>> of video cameras for personal use. Sale, rental, or other 
>> >>>> commercial use (other than for editorial use) is prohibited 
>> >>>> without prior written authorization, including signing a 
>> >>>> single-use license
>> >> agreement,
>> >> and payment of fee.
>> >>>> Commercial photography includes, but is not limited to wedding 
>> >>>> photography, professional portraits, modeling, media, and images 
>> >>>> for
>> >> resale in any form.
>> >>>> To schedule wedding and portrait photographs please contact Bill 
>> >>>> Belleno, Visitor Services Manager, call: 724-228-9256 or email:
>> >> vsm at pa-trolley.orgReservations are required one week in advance.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Note that commercial productions intended for broadcast will be 
>> >>>> handled on a case by case basis.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dennis F. Cramer
>> >>>> http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> From: hrbran at cavtel.net
>> >>>>> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 07:25:30 -0500
>> >>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
>> >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types Like
>> >>>>> Ed)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I was just looking over the PTM website and came across a 
>> >>>>> section on that website which defies all comprehension. The 
>> >>>>> sub-section is titled "Photography Policy" and indicates that 
>> >>>>> in order to take photos PTM visitors must pay a fee of $100.00 
>> >>>>> per hour. You mean to tell me that visitors to PTM are not 
>> >>>>> permitted to take photos unless they pay PTM
>> >>>>> $100.00 per hour ?? I'm betting on someone "litigating" that rule.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Herb Brannon
>> >>>>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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