[PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types Like Ed)

Mon Jan 28 12:21:45 EST 2013

Just called PTM. My membership was in the computer, however, someone at PTM
had checked the "no" box pertaining to if I did or did not want to receive
Trolley Fare. So, how many "Trolley Fare's" am I owed since October 1st ?

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:

> Then that means that I am not on the mailing list for some reason. I'll
> call them right now.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> my trolley fare arrived like 6-8 days ago.
>>
>> Derrick
>>
>>
>> On Jan 28, 2013, at 11:52, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Dennis,
>> > I should be at PTM as many days as I feel like this coming season. I
>> should
>> > be moved to Pittsburgh by then. I look forward to you being my
>> instructor
>> > for PTM Operator Training  ;-)
>> >
>> > Ed,
>> > These days it's good to avoid "management involvement" at a lot of
>> places.
>> > All that's heard is "mo money, mo money, mo money, and mo money". The
>> thing
>> > to remember is that "greed" is one of the "seven deadly ones". The
>> shining
>> > example of this is the so-called "Lakeshore Electric Railway" (nee
>> Columbia
>> > Park operation). The "high dollar crowd" who were the overseers of that
>> > operation got their "pocket change" to see them through the
>> > recession/depression. Now, however, nothing remains of what could have
>> been
>> > something good. I hope they all had a good vacation with that money.
>> >
>> > As long as the subject is PTM, since October, 2012 has PTM issued any
>> > "Trolley Fare" magazines or any other mailings to members?
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Edward H. Lybarger <
>> ehlybarger at yahoo.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have not been getting list mail for some time now, and finally asked
>> >> Derrick to change my address to another email account that I keep for
>> such
>> >> occurrences.  So far, it's working!
>> >>
>> >> Herb, this is the first time I've seen this policy (I'm deliberately
>> >> avoiding any management involvement, except for Archives, at PTM these
>> >> days), but it's important to note that it applies mostly to commercial
>> uses
>> >> of the images.  The other is a fee-raising thing (we're getting pretty
>> >> mercenary in this department) for those whose egos demand exclusive
>> use of
>> >> a
>> >> car on which they can be photographed.  So as long as you're not
>> selling
>> >> the
>> >> photos, there's no restriction on member photography.
>> >>
>> >> Ed
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org
>> >> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf
>> Of DF
>> >> Cramer
>> >> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:21 AM
>> >> To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types Like Ed)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Just to clarify: the fee is for specific events. Come down this spring
>> and
>> >> take pictures to your hearts content. Our service during the Washington
>> >> County Fair has become a traction fan holiday.
>> >>
>> >> Dennis F. Cramer
>> >> http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/
>> >>
>> >>> From: hrbran at cavtel.net
>> >>> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:15:54 -0500
>> >>> To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
>> >>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types Like
>> >>> Ed)
>> >>>
>> >>> That's good to know. I was becoming concerned when I noticed
>> >> "substantial"
>> >>> increases in fees for all services at PTM then saw the $100 permit
>> >>> required for taking photos.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:03 AM, DF Cramer
>> >> <alto_trombone at hotmail.com>wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Herb,
>> >>>> Read the entire policy------
>> >>>> Photo Sessions at Pennsylvania Trolley Museum
>> >>>>
>> >>>> CHOOSE YOUR FAVORITE VINTAGE STREETCAR - Choose from any of our
>> >>>> operational streetcars for stunning interior and exterior photo
>> shots.
>> >>>> Favorite trolley backdrops are the beautiful Streetcar Named Desire,
>> >>>> our Rio de Janeiro Open Car, and the meticulously restored 1917
>> >>>> Pittsburgh Car
>> >>>> 4398 among many others. Your streetcar photo session will be hosted
>> >>>> by a uniformed streetcar operator from the Pennsylvania Trolley
>> Museum.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Streetcar Photo Session - $100 per Hour Private use of a vintage
>> >>>> streetcar with motorman for photo session
>> >>>> Available: April through December by appointment
>> >>>>
>> >>>> PHOTOGRAPHY POLICY
>> >>>> Pennsylvania Trolley Museum encourages photography and the use of
>> >>>> video cameras for personal use. Sale, rental, or other commercial
>> >>>> use (other than for editorial use) is prohibited without prior
>> >>>> written authorization, including signing a single-use license
>> >> agreement,
>> >> and payment of fee.
>> >>>> Commercial photography includes, but is not limited to wedding
>> >>>> photography, professional portraits, modeling, media, and images for
>> >> resale in any form.
>> >>>> To schedule wedding and portrait photographs please contact Bill
>> >>>> Belleno, Visitor Services Manager, call: 724-228-9256 or email:
>> >> vsm at pa-trolley.orgReservations are required one week in advance.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Note that commercial productions intended for broadcast will be
>> >>>> handled on a case by case basis.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dennis F. Cramer
>> >>>> http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> From: hrbran at cavtel.net
>> >>>>> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 07:25:30 -0500
>> >>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
>> >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types Like
>> >>>>> Ed)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I was just looking over the PTM website and came across a section
>> >>>>> on that website which defies all comprehension. The sub-section is
>> >>>>> titled "Photography Policy" and indicates that in order to take
>> >>>>> photos PTM visitors must pay a fee of $100.00 per hour. You mean
>> >>>>> to tell me that visitors to PTM are not permitted to take photos
>> >>>>> unless they pay PTM
>> >>>>> $100.00 per hour ?? I'm betting on someone "litigating" that rule.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Herb Brannon
>> >>>>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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