[PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types Like Ed)

Mon Jan 28 12:07:08 EST 2013

Then that means that I am not on the mailing list for some reason. I'll
call them right now.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Derrick Brashear <shadow at gmail.com> wrote:

> my trolley fare arrived like 6-8 days ago.
>
> Derrick
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2013, at 11:52, Herb Brannon <hrbran at cavtel.net> wrote:
>
> > Dennis,
> > I should be at PTM as many days as I feel like this coming season. I
> should
> > be moved to Pittsburgh by then. I look forward to you being my instructor
> > for PTM Operator Training  ;-)
> >
> > Ed,
> > These days it's good to avoid "management involvement" at a lot of
> places.
> > All that's heard is "mo money, mo money, mo money, and mo money". The
> thing
> > to remember is that "greed" is one of the "seven deadly ones". The
> shining
> > example of this is the so-called "Lakeshore Electric Railway" (nee
> Columbia
> > Park operation). The "high dollar crowd" who were the overseers of that
> > operation got their "pocket change" to see them through the
> > recession/depression. Now, however, nothing remains of what could have
> been
> > something good. I hope they all had a good vacation with that money.
> >
> > As long as the subject is PTM, since October, 2012 has PTM issued any
> > "Trolley Fare" magazines or any other mailings to members?
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Edward H. Lybarger <
> ehlybarger at yahoo.com>wrote:
> >
> >> I have not been getting list mail for some time now, and finally asked
> >> Derrick to change my address to another email account that I keep for
> such
> >> occurrences.  So far, it's working!
> >>
> >> Herb, this is the first time I've seen this policy (I'm deliberately
> >> avoiding any management involvement, except for Archives, at PTM these
> >> days), but it's important to note that it applies mostly to commercial
> uses
> >> of the images.  The other is a fee-raising thing (we're getting pretty
> >> mercenary in this department) for those whose egos demand exclusive use
> of
> >> a
> >> car on which they can be photographed.  So as long as you're not selling
> >> the
> >> photos, there's no restriction on member photography.
> >>
> >> Ed
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org
> >> [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of
> DF
> >> Cramer
> >> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 7:21 AM
> >> To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
> >> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types Like Ed)
> >>
> >>
> >> Just to clarify: the fee is for specific events. Come down this spring
> and
> >> take pictures to your hearts content. Our service during the Washington
> >> County Fair has become a traction fan holiday.
> >>
> >> Dennis F. Cramer
> >> http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/
> >>
> >>> From: hrbran at cavtel.net
> >>> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:15:54 -0500
> >>> To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types Like
> >>> Ed)
> >>>
> >>> That's good to know. I was becoming concerned when I noticed
> >> "substantial"
> >>> increases in fees for all services at PTM then saw the $100 permit
> >>> required for taking photos.
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:03 AM, DF Cramer
> >> <alto_trombone at hotmail.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Herb,
> >>>> Read the entire policy------
> >>>> Photo Sessions at Pennsylvania Trolley Museum
> >>>>
> >>>> CHOOSE YOUR FAVORITE VINTAGE STREETCAR - Choose from any of our
> >>>> operational streetcars for stunning interior and exterior photo shots.
> >>>> Favorite trolley backdrops are the beautiful Streetcar Named Desire,
> >>>> our Rio de Janeiro Open Car, and the meticulously restored 1917
> >>>> Pittsburgh Car
> >>>> 4398 among many others. Your streetcar photo session will be hosted
> >>>> by a uniformed streetcar operator from the Pennsylvania Trolley
> Museum.
> >>>>
> >>>> Streetcar Photo Session - $100 per Hour Private use of a vintage
> >>>> streetcar with motorman for photo session
> >>>> Available: April through December by appointment
> >>>>
> >>>> PHOTOGRAPHY POLICY
> >>>> Pennsylvania Trolley Museum encourages photography and the use of
> >>>> video cameras for personal use. Sale, rental, or other commercial
> >>>> use (other than for editorial use) is prohibited without prior
> >>>> written authorization, including signing a single-use license
> >> agreement,
> >> and payment of fee.
> >>>> Commercial photography includes, but is not limited to wedding
> >>>> photography, professional portraits, modeling, media, and images for
> >> resale in any form.
> >>>> To schedule wedding and portrait photographs please contact Bill
> >>>> Belleno, Visitor Services Manager, call: 724-228-9256 or email:
> >> vsm at pa-trolley.orgReservations are required one week in advance.
> >>>>
> >>>> Note that commercial productions intended for broadcast will be
> >>>> handled on a case by case basis.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dennis F. Cramer
> >>>> http://home.windstream.net/dfc1/
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: hrbran at cavtel.net
> >>>>> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 07:25:30 -0500
> >>>>> To: pittsburgh-railways at dementix.org
> >>>>> Subject: [PRCo] Question For PTM Members (Management Types Like
> >>>>> Ed)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I was just looking over the PTM website and came across a section
> >>>>> on that website which defies all comprehension. The sub-section is
> >>>>> titled "Photography Policy" and indicates that in order to take
> >>>>> photos PTM visitors must pay a fee of $100.00 per hour. You mean
> >>>>> to tell me that visitors to PTM are not permitted to take photos
> >>>>> unless they pay PTM
> >>>>> $100.00 per hour ?? I'm betting on someone "litigating" that rule.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Herb Brannon
> >>>>> In Cuyahoga Valley National Park
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Herb Brannon
In Cuyahoga Valley National Park

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