[PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in Museum

[Lattner, Raymond]

I thought the book, PCC the Car That Fought Back, indicated it was relatively easy to change the gauge of the trucks? 

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From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of John Swindler
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in Museum

 
 
 
We tend to use the term 're-gauge', which implies modifying the original trucks.  But suspect it would be a lot cheaper to swap for trucks that are already standard gauge.  In the end, same difference - 1440 is operable on Seashore track, only quicker and cheaper.  
 
PTM has the opposite problem - finding broad gauge trucks to fit under standard gauge equipment without going to expense of re-gauging.  I suspect the Boston dump car is an example.  However, the open car did not lend itself to an easy expedient.   
 
Never paid much attention to re-gauging issues until the Trolley Fare accounts on work that had to be done for several recent PTM acquisitions. 
 

 
> From: dwightlong at verizon.net
> To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 03:20:42 -0400
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in Museum
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> John
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> Perhaps so they could operate it on their standard gauge track?  What am I missing in this question?
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> Dwight
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> From: John Swindler
> Sent: Thursday, 18 July, 2013 21:51
> To: Western PA Trolley discussion
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in Museum
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> huh, Fred???
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> Alan Pegler never had a Royal Scot.  Those were London-Midland-Scottish 4-6-0 types used on the West Coast main line.  The first one - #6100 Royal Scot  has been preserved.  
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> The "Flying Scotsman" is an  A-3 class London and Northeastern 'pacific' type loco used on the East Coast main line.
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> The only similarity is that both made trips to US, but neither you nor I ever saw the Royal Scot in this country - it's US visit was during 1930s.
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> As for PRC 1440, finding this link falls into the category of just dumb luck.  Any reason Seashore would re-gauge the PRC trucks rather than use an extra set of Boston PCC trucks????
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> http://www.trolleymuseum.org/collection/browse.php?id=01440SPA
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> > From: fwschneider at comcast.net
> > Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:49:27 -0400
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in Museum
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> > Here is a link to 1440 on Seashore's web site.
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> > http://www.trolleymuseum.org/collection/browse.php?id=01440SPA
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> > I have no idea what shape it is in today.  Remember when Alan Pegler's Royal Scot  (4472) was running in the U. S. A?    I think it is called the Flying Scotsman today and there is a joke on line about renaming it after the prime minister by simply removing the F from the name.  
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> > Well, I think that might have been about 1969.   I went up on the Night Clunker from Philly to Providence and met Bill Middleton (the Navy had him in Newport, RI then) and we spent the weekend chasing a British steam engine and riding trolleys at Seashore.   That was the only time I saw 1440 and it looked pretty good them.    I have been up that way one or two times since but I didn't see it out.
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> > On Jul 18, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Edward H. Lybarger wrote:
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> > > It was operable at that time.  I presume it still is...can't find a photo of it -- or most other cars -- on their website.
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