[PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in Museum

[Dwight Long]

Ed

Unless they had purchased a set or sets of trucks with “real” PCC wheels prior to MBTA going to the dreaded solid wheels.  

Dwight

From: Edward H. Lybarger 
Sent: Friday, 19 July, 2013 10:21
To: 'Western PA Trolley discussion' 
Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in Museum
I suspect they regauged the original trucks...my photos from late summer
1970 show that the car sits on resilient wheels.  MBTA had gotten away from
them by that point, and was running PCCs on solid steel wheels.  So you
couldn't just swap in a set of Boston trucks and have any authenticity.

Ed

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[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of John
Swindler
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:37 AM
To: Western PA Trolley discussion
Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in Museum

 
 
 
We tend to use the term 're-gauge', which implies modifying the original
trucks.  But suspect it would be a lot cheaper to swap for trucks that are
already standard gauge.  In the end, same difference - 1440 is operable on
Seashore track, only quicker and cheaper.  
 
PTM has the opposite problem - finding broad gauge trucks to fit under
standard gauge equipment without going to expense of re-gauging.  I suspect
the Boston dump car is an example.  However, the open car did not lend
itself to an easy expedient.   
 
Never paid much attention to re-gauging issues until the Trolley Fare
accounts on work that had to be done for several recent PTM acquisitions. 
 

 
> From: dwightlong at verizon.net
> To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 03:20:42 -0400
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in Museum
> 
> 
> John
> 
> Perhaps so they could operate it on their standard gauge track?  What am I
missing in this question?
> 
> Dwight
> 
> From: John Swindler
> Sent: Thursday, 18 July, 2013 21:51
> To: Western PA Trolley discussion
> Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in Museum
> 
>  
> huh, Fred???
>  
> Alan Pegler never had a Royal Scot.  Those were London-Midland-Scottish
4-6-0 types used on the West Coast main line.  The first one - #6100 Royal
Scot  has been preserved.  
>  
> The "Flying Scotsman" is an  A-3 class London and Northeastern 'pacific'
type loco used on the East Coast main line.
>  
> The only similarity is that both made trips to US, but neither you nor I
ever saw the Royal Scot in this country - it's US visit was during 1930s.
>  
> As for PRC 1440, finding this link falls into the category of just dumb
luck.  Any reason Seashore would re-gauge the PRC trucks rather than use an
extra set of Boston PCC trucks????
>  
> http://www.trolleymuseum.org/collection/browse.php?id=01440SPA
> 
>  
>  
>  
> > From: fwschneider at comcast.net
> > Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 19:49:27 -0400
> > To: pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org
> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] PRC 1400 Series PCC in Museum
> > 
> > Here is a link to 1440 on Seashore's web site.
> > 
> > http://www.trolleymuseum.org/collection/browse.php?id=01440SPA
> > 
> > I have no idea what shape it is in today.  Remember when Alan Pegler's
Royal Scot  (4472) was running in the U. S. A?    I think it is called the
Flying Scotsman today and there is a joke on line about renaming it after
the prime minister by simply removing the F from the name.  
> > 
> > Well, I think that might have been about 1969.   I went up on the Night
Clunker from Philly to Providence and met Bill Middleton (the Navy had him
in Newport, RI then) and we spent the weekend chasing a British steam engine
and riding trolleys at Seashore.   That was the only time I saw 1440 and it
looked pretty good them.    I have been up that way one or two times since
but I didn't see it out.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Jul 18, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Edward H. Lybarger wrote:
> > 
> > > It was operable at that time.  I presume it still is...can't find a
photo of it -- or most other cars -- on their website.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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