[PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg

Herb Brannon hrbran at cavtel.net
Sat Nov 9 10:19:01 EST 2013


Derrick,
As I was writing that last answer to your first post, I was thinking the
same thing about using the HOV lanes then into the tunnel on North Side.
Also, the current alignment of East Street could be used to a North Avenue
subway to connect to the existing rail line. Hopefully the Federal
Government has money for this !


On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Derrick Brashear <shadow at dementix.org>wrote:

> apparently you come down evergreen road, since the line existed :)
>
> yeah, i know the old approach wouldn't work today. something where one of
> the 2 HOV lanes is would work, and could drop you right into the tunnel
> stub on the north side.
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Edward H. Lybarger <trams2 at comcast.net
> >wrote:
>
> > Unquestionably.  But who pays, and how do you get south of McKnight Road?
> > Center of the freeway works most of the way, but the subway connection
> > would
> > be circuitous.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org
> > [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of
> > Derrick Brashear
> > Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 8:41 AM
> > To: Western PA Trolley discussion
> > Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Edward H. Lybarger
> > <trams2 at comcast.net>wrote:
> >
> > > You have to wonder how many other companies nationwide were built,
> > > like the Harmony Route, to satisfy the gigantic ego of the guy behind
> > > it.  It went the long way to Butler (and probably drew just enough
> > > traffic from the Short Line to render it insolvent); New Castle was a
> > > long way off and although it had people, not enough of them wanted to
> > > go to Pittsburgh.  In between was a lot of nothing, plus Evans City
> > > and Ellwood City.  Oh, yes, there was also a nice camping area along
> > > the Connoquenessing that Mr. Boggs favored.  He also favored the most
> > > expensive construction that could be had...only the best.
> > >
> > > Mr. Boggs built the line with the expectation that everyone adjacent
> > > to it would come to his department store.  This just didn't happen.
> > > David McCahill compounded the misery by acquiring the Short Line out
> > > of receivership in about 1919...now he had two companies that couldn't
> > > earn a living, and when the bonds came due, there was no money.  Some
> > > of the bridges sat for years after abandonment because no one could
> > > earn enough in scrap value to justify the labor cost of dismantling
> them.
> > >
> > > Just another company that never should have been built.
> > >
> >
> > While today, a fast rail route to at least Cranberry would be fantastic.
> >
> >
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