[PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg

Dwight Long dwightlong at verizon.net
Mon Nov 11 12:45:50 EST 2013


Tom

But your system invested in infrastructure so that you have no platform expense.

Pittsburgh, as you well know from your years there, rebuilt existing infrastructure and does not have that luxury.

Every time an additional train is run, since they lose money on a CRP basis, it costs PAT more on a net basis.

I strongly suspect that in Vancouver the marginal costs of adding a train are less, probably substantially less, than the revenue derived from it.

Dwight

From: TEP 
Sent: Saturday, 09 November, 2013 14:42
To: Western PA Trolley discussion 
Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg

On 09/11/2013 09:22, Herb Brannon wrote:
> ...........
> One the cloudy side, why doesn't PATransit try to get money to extend some
> of the Pittsburgh lines? The PAT management doesn't seem too interested in
> running a good transit system. Service levels are no where near what they
> were when I worked at PAT.......
>

Because capital and operating subsidies come from different pockets. PAT 
could build all it wants--but have no money to operate any new lines--or 
the existing lines for that matter.

I live in Vancouver. The Urban area is around the same population as 
Greater Pittsburgh. Our three rail lines carry half a million passengers 
a day. Peak headways down to four and six car trains every ninety 
seconds. Service at least every five minutes until 1:15 am. Plus the 5 
train peak only commuter rail. Use it or lose it.

Tom Parkinson

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