[PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg

[Bob Rathke]

We spent summers in that area in the late 1940's and 50's. We always called it Warrendale (Borough?). A place name for the intersection north of the Turnpike interchange was Crider's Corners. 

I never heard of Cranberry Township until the 1970's. Along the same lines, where did present day Seven Fields come from? I only started to hear that name (a real estate development?) very recently. 

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From: "Dwight Long" <dwightlong at verizon.net> 
To: "Western PA Trolley discussion" <pittsburgh-railways at mailman.dementix.org> 
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 11:22:23 AM 
Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg 


Ed, Derrick 

Question related to this discussion. 

How did this area come to be known as Cranberry? In my day in the area it was called Warrendale. 

What changed? And why? 

Dwight 

From: Edward H. Lybarger 
Sent: Saturday, 09 November, 2013 09:18 
To: 'Western PA Trolley discussion' 
Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg 
Unquestionably. But who pays, and how do you get south of McKnight Road? 
Center of the freeway works most of the way, but the subway connection would 
be circuitous. 

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[mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of 
Derrick Brashear 
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 8:41 AM 
To: Western PA Trolley discussion 
Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg 

On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Edward H. Lybarger 
<trams2 at comcast.net>wrote: 

> You have to wonder how many other companies nationwide were built, 
> like the Harmony Route, to satisfy the gigantic ego of the guy behind 
> it. It went the long way to Butler (and probably drew just enough 
> traffic from the Short Line to render it insolvent); New Castle was a 
> long way off and although it had people, not enough of them wanted to 
> go to Pittsburgh. In between was a lot of nothing, plus Evans City 
> and Ellwood City. Oh, yes, there was also a nice camping area along 
> the Connoquenessing that Mr. Boggs favored. He also favored the most 
> expensive construction that could be had...only the best. 
> 
> Mr. Boggs built the line with the expectation that everyone adjacent 
> to it would come to his department store. This just didn't happen. 
> David McCahill compounded the misery by acquiring the Short Line out 
> of receivership in about 1919...now he had two companies that couldn't 
> earn a living, and when the bonds came due, there was no money. Some 
> of the bridges sat for years after abandonment because no one could 
> earn enough in scrap value to justify the labor cost of dismantling them. 
> 
> Just another company that never should have been built. 
> 

While today, a fast rail route to at least Cranberry would be fantastic. 



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