[PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg

[Fred Schneider]

Paste them together.


On Nov 11, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Dwight Long wrote:

> 
> Ed  
> 
> My computer or my internet service did not like either of those references.
> 
> Dwight
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Edward H. Lybarger 
>  To: 'Western PA Trolley discussion' 
>  Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 3:43 PM
>  Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg
> 
> 
>  More detail:
> 
>  http://web.archive.org/web/20070630050058/http://www.cranberrytownship.org/B
>  ringbackthewildcranberry.htm 
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org
>  [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of
>  Edward H. Lybarger
>  Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 3:23 PM
>  To: 'Western PA Trolley discussion'
>  Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg
> 
>  My understanding is that cranberries were actually grown in the area.  But I
>  don't have any first-hand knowledge of that history.  Maybe the township has
>  a website that would prove to be enlightening?
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org
>  [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of
>  Dwight Long
>  Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:22 PM
>  To: 'Western PA Trolley discussion'
>  Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg
> 
> 
>  Ed, Derrick
> 
>  Question related to this discussion.
> 
>  How did this area come to be known as Cranberry?  In my day in the area it
>  was called Warrendale.
> 
>  What changed?  And why?
> 
>  Dwight
> 
>  From: Edward H. Lybarger
>  Sent: Saturday, 09 November, 2013 09:18
>  To: 'Western PA Trolley discussion' 
>  Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg Unquestionably.  But
>  who pays, and how do you get south of McKnight Road?
>  Center of the freeway works most of the way, but the subway connection would
>  be circuitous.
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org
>  [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of
>  Derrick Brashear
>  Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 8:41 AM
>  To: Western PA Trolley discussion
>  Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg
> 
>  On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Edward H. Lybarger
>  <trams2 at comcast.net>wrote:
> 
>> You have to wonder how many other companies nationwide were built, 
>> like the Harmony Route, to satisfy the gigantic ego of the guy behind 
>> it.  It went the long way to Butler (and probably drew just enough 
>> traffic from the Short Line to render it insolvent); New Castle was a 
>> long way off and although it had people, not enough of them wanted to 
>> go to Pittsburgh.  In between was a lot of nothing, plus Evans City 
>> and Ellwood City.  Oh, yes, there was also a nice camping area along 
>> the Connoquenessing that Mr. Boggs favored.  He also favored the most 
>> expensive construction that could be had...only the best.
>> 
>> Mr. Boggs built the line with the expectation that everyone adjacent 
>> to it would come to his department store.  This just didn't happen.
>> David McCahill compounded the misery by acquiring the Short Line out 
>> of receivership in about 1919...now he had two companies that couldn't 
>> earn a living, and when the bonds came due, there was no money.  Some 
>> of the bridges sat for years after abandonment because no one could 
>> earn enough in scrap value to justify the labor cost of dismantling them.
>> 
>> Just another company that never should have been built.
>> 
> 
>  While today, a fast rail route to at least Cranberry would be fantastic.
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