[PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg

[Dwight Long]

Ed  

My computer or my internet service did not like either of those references.

Dwight
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Edward H. Lybarger 
  To: 'Western PA Trolley discussion' 
  Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 3:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg


  More detail:

  http://web.archive.org/web/20070630050058/http://www.cranberrytownship.org/B
  ringbackthewildcranberry.htm 

  -----Original Message-----
  From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org
  [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of
  Edward H. Lybarger
  Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 3:23 PM
  To: 'Western PA Trolley discussion'
  Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg

  My understanding is that cranberries were actually grown in the area.  But I
  don't have any first-hand knowledge of that history.  Maybe the township has
  a website that would prove to be enlightening?

  -----Original Message-----
  From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org
  [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of
  Dwight Long
  Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:22 PM
  To: 'Western PA Trolley discussion'
  Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg


  Ed, Derrick

  Question related to this discussion.

  How did this area come to be known as Cranberry?  In my day in the area it
  was called Warrendale.

  What changed?  And why?

  Dwight

  From: Edward H. Lybarger
  Sent: Saturday, 09 November, 2013 09:18
  To: 'Western PA Trolley discussion' 
  Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg Unquestionably.  But
  who pays, and how do you get south of McKnight Road?
  Center of the freeway works most of the way, but the subway connection would
  be circuitous.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org
  [mailto:pittsburgh-railways-bounces at mailman.dementix.org] On Behalf Of
  Derrick Brashear
  Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 8:41 AM
  To: Western PA Trolley discussion
  Subject: Re: [PRCo] First Harmony Car Enters Pittsburg

  On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 5:24 PM, Edward H. Lybarger
  <trams2 at comcast.net>wrote:

  > You have to wonder how many other companies nationwide were built, 
  > like the Harmony Route, to satisfy the gigantic ego of the guy behind 
  > it.  It went the long way to Butler (and probably drew just enough 
  > traffic from the Short Line to render it insolvent); New Castle was a 
  > long way off and although it had people, not enough of them wanted to 
  > go to Pittsburgh.  In between was a lot of nothing, plus Evans City 
  > and Ellwood City.  Oh, yes, there was also a nice camping area along 
  > the Connoquenessing that Mr. Boggs favored.  He also favored the most 
  > expensive construction that could be had...only the best.
  >
  > Mr. Boggs built the line with the expectation that everyone adjacent 
  > to it would come to his department store.  This just didn't happen.
  > David McCahill compounded the misery by acquiring the Short Line out 
  > of receivership in about 1919...now he had two companies that couldn't 
  > earn a living, and when the bonds came due, there was no money.  Some 
  > of the bridges sat for years after abandonment because no one could 
  > earn enough in scrap value to justify the labor cost of dismantling them.
  >
  > Just another company that never should have been built.
  >

  While today, a fast rail route to at least Cranberry would be fantastic.



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